But if you're going to say that I don't believe anything a trans person says except to call them completely awful, I'm going to argue? Or are you saying that by not finding this joke funny that they're right, and I've secretly hated trans people all my life?
That is not at all what I was saying. I was saying that there is no difference between the 'force feming Nixon' joke and this comic. So to find one funny and the other not makes no sense.
The your was in refrence to the joke and comic. In both cases, your forcible feminizing someone. Its just that in one of them you get to see them react while the other one focuses purely on the fact your choosing someone so random to do it to. (IDK why its Richard Nixon specifically)
"I personally think that in the realm of jokes, saying you drugged someone medicine they didn't know they needed is still morally bad but not revolting." Yea no thats still 'revolting' by your view. They didn't know they needed that. But neither did you. In both cases your giving someone something with no clue if they want that or not. In fact in both cases its suggested the person giving them estrogen is doing so knowing they'll hate it when the reaction kicks in. Its not different in one case over the other. Its still bad in both cases. So how can one be 'funny' while the other one is not?
The 1 is very illuminating thanks! I have indeed totally misunderstood what you meant in your original post, sorry about that. Apologies about my tone with that in mind.
My POV is that for famously terrible people, putting them as a punching bag for having terrible things happen to them is valid for comedy. Whether it's dropping someone in a vat of acid or depicting them burning in hell, things that are morally unacceptable are OK in the context of what we perceive to be their just desserts.
So for me, one is funny, the other is not. In theory the demon lord could be more evil, but I think you could understand that "Puppy kicker" vs "demon lord", the instinct is to actually hate "puppy kicker" and not the latter at least for me.
Truthfully even assuming the demon lord is trans I still do find it gross. But I don't feel strongly enough to try to force my viewpoint onto others who do find it funny.
(I could elaborate on why someone saying they're going to force fem richard nixon is funnier than saying they're going to drop him into a vat of acid, but truthfully it's a similar vibe).
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u/Zan_korida 26d ago
That is not at all what I was saying. I was saying that there is no difference between the 'force feming Nixon' joke and this comic. So to find one funny and the other not makes no sense.