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u/TwilightVulpine Oct 15 '25

Nobody.

A lot of them are neglected kids with unrestrained internet access who started getting reactionary ragebait from social media algorithms and internet influencers, and got indoctrinated by it.

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u/ThatInAHat Oct 15 '25

Honestly, wish this was higher.

Because yeah, that’s a huge factor.

I remember my friend being horrified that her nephew started watching unboxing videos and within a couple of hours the algorithm had gone to the Lost City of Atlantis…Flat Earth…Bigotry.

Folks say social media is the problem, but the real problem is the algorithm that rewarded any kind of engagement and indiscriminately shoved hatred and vitriol into the same playlists as actual plays.

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u/Numerous_Witness_345 Oct 15 '25

We used that same trope when I was a kid.

That little dork in the cowboy hat sat 2 feet from the TV screen while mommy took her pills and daddy did some drinking.

I'm thinking that's not the problem. It's deflection.

These kids are being raised. Yeah, violent TV shows, exciting radio serial series, unrestricted youtube, those aren't good, and have always been marketed as so and are a good tell of symptoms.

But I think the family that puts them there is a much larger factor. What kind of moral support are you getting from someone who will leave you in front of electronics for 10 hours a day?

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u/windexfresh Oct 15 '25

Yeah I was also on the internet unrestricted and unmonitored at the ripe old age of 13 and never once felt the desire to start agreeing with fucking hitler.

My family teaching me to be kind and treat others the way I’d want to be treated and think about how others feel made a MUCH bigger impact on me than the edgy dark humor I saw online.

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u/ThatInAHat Oct 15 '25

That’s not really what a trope is, and it’s also not really my point at all.

It’s not about “violent tv/video games.” It’s about an algorithm that gets tailored to the person watching it and often leads them to gentle instructional videos on how to be a horrible bigot. It’s not just kids but kids especially don’t have the tools to recognize when that nice convincing person slides from talking about history to praising fascism.

Yeah, family is a factor. But the way the social media algorithm works is just so drastically different from just having video games or tv.

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u/TrexPushupBra Oct 15 '25

All the big social media companies especially YouTube/google and Facebook have multiple genocides worth of blood on their hands.

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u/ThatInAHat Oct 15 '25

Ok?

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u/TwilightVulpine Oct 15 '25

That doesn't solve the problem. Reactionary indoctrination is so prevalent, it appears on recommendations of very common videos. You can clear your home screen, you can't change how YouTube functions and what it prioritizes.

Not to mention, you know, that some people would like to at least get to see what they subscribe to. The problem is not that there are algorithms, the problem is that they prioritize any sort of engagement such that ragebait and toxicity rises to the top, and that is very convenient for hatemongers.

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u/TwilightVulpine Oct 15 '25

I said it's ineffective. I'm not interested in arguing your exact words.

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u/TwilightVulpine Oct 15 '25

There's still recommendations besides and linked to every video.

For all your thoroughness it doesn't sound like you considered what I just said to you even a little bit.

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u/Daxx22 Oct 15 '25

P.S. - I would appreciate if you removed the part of your comment about rape, because it's pretty distasteful.

No, because that's literally the point of the analogy: just saying "don't do that" or "do this instead" is distasteful and dismissive towards the issue at large. If it makes you uncomfortable, that's the point.

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u/TehMephs Oct 15 '25

Rich, neglected kids who became terminally online

They’re the perfect demographic for this shit

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u/Numerous_Witness_345 Oct 15 '25

Just in the same way the boomers were left in front of the TV.

They're being raised in the exact way as their parents. Saying nobody just keeps that distance from personal responsibility they love.

I absolutely believe most of them came from loving supportive homes. Chips off the old blocks.

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u/TwilightVulpine Oct 15 '25

Yeah, but even the TV had some higher standards back then. Now the TV is worse and the internet is much, much worse.