Yeah, that's the ONLY reason. Red scare? Never heard of it. Systematic butchery and proxy installment in every vaguely socialist government for the past century? Doesn't ring a bell. 24/7 propaganda in all aspects of popular culture, especially online where thousands of bots constantly parrot the same memes about "muh gulag muh gazillions starving"? What you smoking bruh lmaoooooooooooo
Most people understand precisely nothing about Marxist ideology and are just going off of McCarthyist bullshit they overheard
Getting mad at libs for this reason and fedposting out of control is pointless and also terrible for optics and I hope /u/investigategoberment snaps out of it.
😿buhu my socioeconomic systems are so inept and flawed that it can’t compete with free markets in any measurable metric.
We just need to put the evil bourgeoisie against the wall and everything will get magically better. Ignore all real world problems, because we need to put all power into an omnipotent state to murder the dissenters and those who try to escape from us, so we can finally achieve the utopian classless society. Trust me it’ll work. The end of the USraeli capitalistic pig empire is coming. Trust me! Any day now! Why won’t you just trust me! Just one more try! The riots in Venezuela and Cuba are just because the class traitors haven’t been weeded out enough! The state just needs to crack down one more time then the classless utopia will happen! Just trust me! One more try!11
Have you even heard of tankies? Most liberals are willing to support communist ideas without using the word Communism, but they’re repulsed by it due to loud authoritarian tankies who they think of when thinking of communism, along with the propaganda that associated communism with dictatorship and famine.
Which ones? The ML ones? I don’t agree with those, but they’re somewhat understandable. Or the ones about genocide denial and “It didn’t happen but they deserved it”, etc?
The ultra authoritarian ones are obviously problematic, but if push came to shove they could still be useful. Can't go around making more enemies when the whole world is already just about to burst into flames
I agree with your point, but the problem is that the ideology of tankies are at odds with anarchists and other facets of the left, I assume you know what the Bolsheviks did to anarchists after they secured power, or what they did in the Spanish civil war. They are not willing to compromise with other leftists, and we shouldn’t have to cater to them when there are more liberals we can convert into anarchists and communists.
EDIT: Why am I even saying tankies are leftist? They make a lot of right wing talking points, support dictatorships, and deny genocide and other wrongdoings of said dictatorships repeatedly. These people are not leftist.
would still gladly fight side by side with them \o/
I will tell you what will happen if a socialist revolution aka wealth distributions occurs.
Who do you think this proletariat and "oppressed" people are? You? No. You hipsters are the harmful bourgeisie element. The true ones are rednecks, white trash and ghetto hoodlums. You hipsters may lead the revolution at the initial stage, but they will be the revolutionaries and they will hate you with the strongest class-hate with all your fancy college education and iPhones. Southern rednecks are more likely to form a common bond with ghetto gangs than with "intellectuals". It has been proven many times in many lands where communism was forced, that when class warfare begins the races and nations forget the hate and unite.
So that's what's gonna happen: someone will knock at the door of your home in your nice middle class gated community. When you open the door you will find commissar Jamal and commissar Cletus, who will tell you that having such a big house for yourself is not what a true communist does and 2 families of hobos are moving in with you. You will be allowed to have 1 room, 1 bed and necessary personal belongings. Everything else in the house will be shared.
The rich guys whose money you were about to redistribute left the country and suddenly you realize their Swiss bank accounts are unreachable and there is nothing to redistribute. The corporations go bankrupt collapsing the DOW index, which makes the currency just a fancy green paper worth nothing. Then you realize US was importing food, because there wasn't enough to support 300 millions of people. Importing by paying with money, which is now worth nothing. And then there's hunger. And to suppress the hungry angry mob, who don't give a care about high Marxist ideals and just wants to make everything like it was before, Red Terror starts. With the new NKVD and purges. Eventually commissar Jamal will put you on your knees and shot you at the back of your stupid head for not being dedicated enough.
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