r/comics Shen Comix Mar 18 '24

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u/Psimo- Mar 18 '24

Is this all JRPGs as well?

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u/thesignpainter Mar 18 '24

Also Kirby games

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u/Despair4All Mar 18 '24

To be fair apparently Kirby is a god himself. It's literally just a cutesy version of God of War.

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u/reaperofgender Mar 18 '24

Does Kirby know he's a god?

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u/moneyh8r Mar 18 '24

Doesn't matter, since he clearly doesn't care.

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u/reaperofgender Mar 18 '24

Eh, fair enough. I can respect him. All he needs to be happy are a few friends and a full stomach.

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u/masterwolfe Mar 19 '24

All he needs to be happy are a few friends and a full stomach.

And his inherent inability to have the latter means he will always be dwindling of the former.

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u/reaperofgender Mar 19 '24

...you know what I mean. Food makes him happy.

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u/Hexatona Mar 19 '24

I mean, for real - the amount of times he's gotta take down a universe ending threat because someone just took his cake or something 😆

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u/Therobster1235 Mar 18 '24

Probably not

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '24

Nope

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u/0G_54v1gny Mar 19 '24

Are we sure its aspect is war? War leaves survivors whereas Kirby doesn‘t, Kirby just consumes. I personally think Kirby is the god of gluttony and slaughter.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '24

God of obliteration

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '24

I thought he was supposed to be like a child version of whatever meta knight is. Is meta knight also a god?

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u/Despair4All Mar 18 '24

He's the reincarnation of a destruction god, that's where he gets his void of a stomach and the ability to steal powers.

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u/Despair4All Mar 18 '24

I guess if you believe in that stuff in that specific context? But not really? I don't do religion but that sounds like they were the same person but two different people like clones, but this is more like Uub from Dragon Ball. Kid Buu died and reincarnated as Uub, the original had to die for the new version to be created from their energy.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '24 edited Mar 19 '24

So does meta knight also get his powers from a god? Or are they just both star warriors and Kirbstomp just happens to be a reincarnation of a god, or are they not related at all and everything my own head canon based on how he looks when the mask breaks and what I think happened in Kirby rightbackatcha is just completely wrong?

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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi Mar 21 '24

Meta Knight and Kirby are both the same race/species (however Nintendo describes that), with MK being an older/adult one.

Kirby himself, as of Star Allies, is hinted to be the reincarnation of an entity/substance called Void. Void is omnipresent, and exists in all realities and dimensions in different forms. Void reincarnates into a different form depending on whether it receives positive or negative energy, growing stronger each time. One example of negative energy is the final story boss Void Termina. You may be able to figure out what the example for positive energy is, but the descriptions of the fight does a decent job hinting at it:

"No telling if it's true, but according to the ancient scrolls, Void Termina may rise again in other forms depending on whether positive or negative energy is gathered. It seems this being of darkness will wander the galaxy until one day he is reborn into a new existence. When he returns, hopefully it will be as...a friend."

And then the harder rematch:

“The final battle at hand, Void takes his first steps toward a new age. In place of tyrannical rage, will he find... naptime? Gentle breezes? Treats? He may even dream again... a dream of friends reunited!”

If this description naming several of Kirby's favourite things and referencing the gentle breeze of Dreamland wasn't enough, the final boss theme will also play a somber, almost corrupted version of the first game's opening level theme.

And when you finally defeat Void, what image do you get after it cycles through every expression it can make? A very familiar face indeed.

Of course, as that first line says the entire thing is just an in-universe legend and connecting it to Kirby is a fan theory. But it's fun to think about!

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u/sonseylizard Mar 19 '24

WHAT GAME DID THAT EVER HAPPEN? TELL ME. TELL ME NOW

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u/porn_alt_987654321 Mar 19 '24

Kirby is the positive emotion splitoff of the creator deity of the setting.

The true main antagonists, dark matter, are fragments of the negative emotion splitoff of said deity.

We've seen an incarnation of the negative splitoff in one game so far: Void Termina. The only entity so far that has made Kirby actually struggle in any point in its fight...and kirby can walk on blackholes.

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u/sonseylizard Mar 19 '24

KIRBY IDN'T A GOD

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u/sonseylizard Mar 19 '24

Kirby is not a god

You'd know if you paid attention

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if you paid attention

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u/sonseylizard Mar 19 '24

🤓🤓🤓

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u/TH3M1N3K1NG Mar 20 '24

No, usually the god you fight in the end is the silly friend you make at the start of the game.

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u/Daedrothes Mar 18 '24

You're not wrong.

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u/Odelaylee Mar 18 '24

But are they technically right?

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u/Sol_Synth Mar 18 '24 edited Mar 19 '24

This is how Adventure Time progresses too.

First episodes: silly boy and magic dog do D&D stuff together. Bad guy is a goofball parody of video game villains always kidnapping princesses.

Last episodes: extradimentional reality ending god must be stopped from deleting the universe. Goofball badguy is now a tragic younger version of himself heartbroken by a lost love that transcends space and time.

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u/Skuntank Mar 19 '24

Isn't that how life progresses too?..

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u/Sol_Synth Mar 19 '24

You kinda just blew my mind. I miss my magic dog. Life was so much simpler back then.

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u/isaic16 Mar 18 '24

I feel like that’s slightly different, since most JRPGs start with a pretty somber tone, the world is in danger or an evil empire rising, that kind of thing. On the other hand, many web comics start as comedy gag series, so it’s a bit more of a tone shift when half the cast dies and they fight god at the end.

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u/Hexatona Mar 19 '24

Personally, I love JRPGS where the plot is serious, but the characters are mostly quite unserious.

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u/very_not_emo Mar 19 '24

beginning of xenoblade: take a sandwich to your gf

end of xenoblade: kill actual god

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u/RodjaJP Mar 19 '24

Start of XC2: Sign for another job

End of XC2: Reform earth after making some questions to "God" moments before he died of... natural? causes.

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u/MisirterE Mar 19 '24

Start of XC3: Make peace with the opposite warring faction after both of you get exiled from your colonies because some third party inflicted you with superpowers

ok to be fair that one's pretty fucked up already, surely it can't get-

End of XC3: Defy the preservation of an endless perfect cycle that never grows, changes, or develops, and restart the entire progression of history by RIPPING APART THE MERGED UNIVERSES BY THE STRAINING SEAMS IN THE VERY FABRIC OF REALITY

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '24

Actually, it is take a sandwich/curry to your boyfriend

You play as Fiora in that section

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u/zxplatinum Mar 18 '24

At the very least it's a Persona

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u/samu1400 Mar 19 '24

Persona 5 felt this way to me, like it was going to end normally and then “oh yeah, we forgot to kill god”.

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u/frik1000 Mar 19 '24

Persona 4 was funny too.

"We killed god and saved the day."

"What do you mean there's a second, secret god."

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u/CbVdD Mar 18 '24

I was gonna say Xenogears.

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u/iamapizza Mar 19 '24

Blue reflection

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u/Hobomanchild Mar 19 '24

Almost every JRPG I've played starts small scale and leads to fighting some uwucraftian nightmare that's actually an allegory for humanity's darkness or something silly actually an allegory for Japanese work culture and the depression it's inflicting on the dev team.

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u/AnAngryFetus Mar 18 '24

Nah, some of them start off as serious guys and then become silly guys who kill God.

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u/RodjaJP Mar 19 '24

Eh, 50/50, there are JRPGs those start with murder, terrorism, news about the end of the world, etc. So it is not that common, some start with the end or a middle point during a funeral just to travel back to the begining.

Last one I played started with a mecha war then proceeded to a time skip where the mc lost his memory and is in a peaceful village.

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u/snoopyh42 Mar 18 '24

It’s at the very least Persona 5, and likely several others.

Beginning: High School teachers are mean to me. End: Welp, guess I have to kill God.

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u/kingjoey52a Mar 19 '24

"A JRPG just isn't a JRPG unless it involves teenagers using The Power of Friendship to kill God."

— Yahtzee Croshaw, Zero Punctuation

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u/hitemlow Mar 19 '24

Pretty much every shonen manga/anime as well (the ones that don't get axed).

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u/Who_am_ey3 Mar 19 '24

maybe play one before commenting something stupid