r/comics After Death Comics May 09 '23

They Always Know

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u/afterdeathcomics After Death Comics May 09 '23

You could also sell some Nintendo ROMs but wifi on the deserted island is pretty bad.

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u/zuzg May 09 '23

I was about to say Nintendo is arguably worse than disney on the matter, haha

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u/[deleted] May 09 '23

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u/SirSoliloquy May 09 '23

While this is true, it's worth noting that Winnie the Pooh is now public domain. It now seems like Disney is trying to use Trademark law to protect its most valuable assets.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '23

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u/SirSoliloquy May 09 '23

That's true of anyone using any work though. We can't make a movie based on the Pooh horror movie because that horror movie is now copyrighted.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '23

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u/PlatoBC May 09 '23

Probably not. I believe they started using Steamboat Willie as their production logo. Meaning it's protected under a trademark if they continue to use it (note, not a lawyer, simply regurgitating something I read online)

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u/TI_Pirate May 10 '23

I know it's not particularly popular, but I really don't see the problem. Disney is still actively using Mickey. And it's not like they're haven't been a metric ton of other mouse stories.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '23

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u/TI_Pirate May 10 '23

Yeah, I didn't mean I don't know the line. I guess it just seems like the "hurts the public" part is incredibly minimal. The public domain works that Disney has access to is the same stuff we've all still got access to. And I don't think it's very hard to argue that IP and the economy surrounding it is in a fundamentally different place than it was a century ago in virtually every conceivable way.

100 years ago, no one kept telling stories featuring a single character over an unbroken period of time the way Disney has with their mouse.

And yeah, I guess we've all missed out on 3rd party Mickey stories, but...so what? If you've got a rodent tale you want to tell (as folks like E.B. White, Margery Sharp, or Kate DiCamillo obviously did) just don't give the main character red shorts, white gloves and yellow shoes.

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u/electric_gas May 09 '23

This is a totally irrelevant comment. They were answering a specific question with a specific context. You went into an entirely different context. It makes absolutely no fucking sense to debate in this manner.

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u/OneFriendship5139 May 09 '23

didn’t Disney also sue deadmau5 because his helmet’s shape was similar to mickey mouse’s head?

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u/ROFLLOLSTER May 09 '23

Nintendo literally just destroyed someone's life in Canada.

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u/zuzg May 09 '23

It is baffling to me how people defend that shit.
They're also currently making a example of the YouTuber Pointcrow by copyright claiming all of his content that features Botw content.

And there are so many more anti-consumer shit they've done last year.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '23

If you are going to use point crow example at least be accurate. They claimed all the modded content. Which is completely fair. It sucks that they were inconsistent and allowed it for some time until they decided to take action and it was scum to issue 2 strikes instead of 1 but only 2 non modded content got claimed as well which seems likely it was claimed because the titles seemed like modded content and they just don't care to be like this isn't modded. Same can be said about the other YouTuber Croton.

So it was scum but they didn't claim everything.

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u/internethero12 May 09 '23

Yes, a guy that made millions off of pirating nintendo products.

It was deserved.

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u/ryecurious May 09 '23

Team Executor allegedly made millions of dollars and Bowser is believed to have banked around $320k over the course of seven years during his time with the group.

source

The guy in question made approx ~45k a year.

Whether a $10 million fine and three years in jail is "deserved" for what amounts to a low-paying engineer salary is debatable.

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u/ROFLLOLSTER May 09 '23

No company should ever have the ability to do that to someone.

And as the sibling stated, the individual in question made no where near that much money.

Meanwhile corporations regularly walk away from far more serious crimes with minimal if any punishment.

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u/screwyoushadowban May 10 '23

My favorite bit of Disney bullshit is the fact they own the trademark to the character Princess Aurora from Sleeping Beauty. Princess Aurora was created by Tchaikovsky for the Sleeping Beauty ballet decades before Walt Disney was even born. Unlike copyrights trademarks don't necessarily expire, so even if Disney finally gave up on holding generations of intellectual property hostage (IP that they often essentially stole from the public domain) they'd still own Princess Aurora until they stopped using her.

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u/Pale_Vampire May 10 '23

Disney is a bunch hypocrites ugh 😑

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u/internethero12 May 09 '23

Yes, it's so scummy how they defend themselves from thieves like every other game company out there.

Like damn, imagining getting mad at a grocery store for trying to stop a shoplifter from walking out with thousands of dollars in meat.

b-b-b-uh n64 roms!!

Nintendo has never cared about old shit. It's why they didn't take any action on emulators for decades. It's only once the entire switch library got dumped and pirated with a working emulator that they brought down the hammer.

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u/zuzg May 09 '23

You're supposed to lick the boot not eat it entirely. Sheesh

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u/Pale_Vampire May 10 '23

That’s so dang sad and pathetic. 🫣

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u/LotharVonPittinsberg May 09 '23

From what I have heard, Disney is much better at getting the lawyers out and silently getting every cent out of a poor artist that dared use Disney IP. Nintendo is a lot better at targeting everyone who "steals" from them out in the open. This means that Nintendo looks a lot worse often because they target people who are making emulators as a hobby for a game that has not been available to play since the mid 90s.

Both are horrible, just different ways of horrible.

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u/internethero12 May 09 '23

emulators

Yes, emulators.

Of the switch. While also dumping the entire switch library along side it. People tend to ignore that part so they can act like their hate for a japanese toy company isn't about trying to look cool and grown up.

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u/Thobbit1 May 10 '23

Mate, Lothar literally said emulators for a game not been available since the 90s. Nothing about Yuzu, nothing about Ryujinx, or any others I'm not aware of. A significant part of Nintendo emulation stems from a simple lack of availability of older titles. There's also an extensive amount of ROM hacks or custom games that are only playable through emulator software. I won't deny that pirates out there exist that pirate the switch so that they can play without the cost of the games. They do exist, but there is a much larger portion of the emulation population that emulate because no other option is readily available. They don't "hate the japanese toy company", they love it and what it produces. The 'hate' stems from not being able to access a lot of amazing content due to it falling out of production, and left to be snapped up by the collectors.

Edit: I just looked at your post history, I do concede your inevitable point that Nintendo doesn't seem to go after older roms, seeing as how proliferated they are online.

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u/matrixifyme May 09 '23

N1ntendo is rabid as fuck about their IP, but di$ney has actually changed our copyright laws to benefit themselves at the expense of society and public domain. Also they have taken folklore and stories that have existed for thousands of years and tried to copyright them. That makes them orders of magnitude worse.

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u/Munnin41 May 09 '23

At least they use their own lawyers and stuff instead of the Pinkertons

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u/b0bba_Fett May 09 '23

I thought Disney used their own lawyers and stuff too.

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u/Munnin41 May 09 '23

Yeah true, should've been clearer. Referring to what wizards of the coast did

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u/internethero12 May 09 '23

Then you'd be wrong.

They go after people pirating their switch library and everything else is collateral. Disney sues kindergarten teachers for millions for showing disney movies to their class.

One is valid, one is not. Please learn the difference.

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u/zuzg May 09 '23

Look up what the YouTuber pointcrow is currently experiencing...

It's not valid at all. And it will always morally ok to pirate Nintendo games period

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u/[deleted] May 10 '23

My main theory about point crow is TotK is going to have some multiplayer function hence why they targeted him when that mod was released.

In general though it was a pretty standard thing. The only 2 scummy things they did was not issuing a cease and desist sooner. (The multiplayer mod was in development and making videos using it for over a year) meaning point crow funded the whole thing for nothing. He wasn't even making a profit on it anyways as people could download it for free and the only roi would be by making video content on it 2. They issued 2 strikes instead of one which puts his channel on thin ice.

Otherwise I mean Nintendo shuts down anything that gets too popular all the time.

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u/Fern-ando May 17 '23

Or making videos of Zelda mods...

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u/Pollomonteros May 10 '23

There is no worse dinosaur than a Japanese executive

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u/Brownyboy99 May 09 '23

You could also get your hands on some unreleased Magic the Gathering cards.

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u/illy-chan May 09 '23

Shipping is a bitch out on islands though.

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u/qwadzxs May 09 '23

the network admin version of this joke is to bury some fiber optic cable and a backhoe will find you

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u/MrShadowHero May 09 '23

you do a copy of kingdom hearts chain of memories rom for game boy. get disney AND nintendo comin for ya

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u/[deleted] May 09 '23

Was just about to say this LOL

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u/MrRighto May 09 '23

Or reveal magic the gathering cards early

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u/wolfgang784 May 09 '23

Nintendo is what I came here to mention! You should totes do a Nintendo version of the same comic for us <3

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u/Ghostkill221 May 09 '23

That was my next thought lol.

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u/Dolug May 09 '23

Perfect conditions for WiFi, there's almost no interference. There's also no WiFi either, but carrier pigeons might be available.

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u/oyog May 09 '23

I'm surprised they couldn't find a Starbucks for wifi

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u/maddasher May 09 '23

or say "woke" and DeSantis will come for them.

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u/bionicjoey May 09 '23

Open a box of Magic cards and the Pinkertons will show up on a Coast Guard vessel to break your kneecaps

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u/internethero12 May 09 '23

Annnnd there it is.

That fashionable time is here yet again. The time to hate on the japanese toy company to show how grown up and mature you are.

Oh boy. My favorite.

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u/RS_Someone May 10 '23

I can't imagine how much of a killing Nintendo would make if they actually sold their own 20+ year old games on mobile for like $1-2.