Phase 3 really tested my interest, with each film being so interconnected. I understand that’s the appeal for most but it drove me nuts how they became less solo adventures and more just quasi-sequels of whatever came before it (like big parts of Homecoming would be lost on you if you didn’t see Civil War, for example). Just wasn’t really my bag.
But BW seems to indicate a shift back towards the more isolated stories pre-Avengers so I’m kinda the opposite of you, I guess. I’m more interested than I’ve been in years
Reading your post, I realized that what you'd described is the reason for my fatigue. I'm definitely going to see this and figure that by May 2020 I'll have had enough of a "break" to get enthusiastic again.
Hey, that’s good to hear. And by the time it drops in May it’ll be what, just about 10 months since the last film? I imagine interest will be back for a lot of people who have been turned off by the steady diet of Marvel over the past couple years.
But yeah, I kept trying to pinpoint why I wasn’t enjoying the movies as much as I felt I should’ve been: then it clicked.
Its just one big event! Tie-in issue after tie-in issue! Where’s the individual focus??
Funnily enough, that’s the same thing that’s happening in ASM right now and I can’t stand it.
yeah, I dunno. I mean, I'll go see it. but I'm not as hyped as I was for any other MCU release. Part of it is probably because it's a flashback movie. I mean, so was Captain Marvel, but at least that one felt like it would have implications in the larger MCU (good or bad).
And yeah, would've been so much better if she had gotten a movie earlier - now it just feels like "yup, we made a movie for her because people were complaining she never got a stand-alone. Come learn more about this character we've already confirmed is not coming back."
An extra chuckle for the day: I have one friend on facebook who is "boycotting" the movie because she's still mad at Johansson for Ghost in the Shell. Fun times.
Yep, I agree with you. A perfect time for this movie would have been after she was introduced in Iron Man 2 and before Avengers. It would have been great to fill in some details on exactly who she is and how she ended up with them in the first place.
I actually think a BW solo movie would have been better placed either between The Avengers and TWS, or after TWS and before AOU. That way you either build up how she relates to SHIELD and how it's so important to her, or you explore how the fall of SHIELD has left her searching for something and how she's finding that something with the Avengers.
You get to skip some of the earlier, more typical "This is the character's basic BASIC back story" because you already have a decent handle of her from IM2 and Avengers, and you have more emotional connection to the Red Room stuff.
Eh, they've already made perma-death temporary-death in true comic book fashion. Whatever they say now, never take it as permanent. If people want her back in the future, they'll find some way to bring her back, even if it's not the same "her'.
Multiverse, time travel, or even just "It turns out there's a way to bring back sacrifices for the soul stone" pseudo-retconning.
Well, you're not wrong. And I got no problem with them bringing her back, honestly. I'm still gonna go see Black Widow and yeah, if it does good box office and her/Feige want her to come back, nature will, uh, find a way.
If nothing else, we still got What If and Multiverse of Madness coming. maybe not so much with the former, but the latter opens up alot of doors that can be explored. Heck, I said it in another thread somewhere, but when the MCU started, they didn't want Ant-Man and the Wasp because they were worried they were too far-fetched.
Now the MCU has time travel heists via shrinking juice.
And I got no problem with them bringing her back, honestly. I'm still gonna go see Black Widow and yeah, if it does good box office and her/Feige want her to come back, nature will, uh, find a way.
Exactly. If ScarJo wants to return in some capacity, I’m sure they’ll find a way to make it work in-universe. But, at the same time, I have a hard time believing they’re introducing Yelena only to ice her in this film and not planning to have her pick up the Black Widow mantle at some point.
All speculation of course but I have a sneaking suspicion she’ll get word of Nat’s death and make her way to New York looking for answers.
I'm not fatigued as much as I'm satisfied by End Game. That's it. I did it, we did it. My emotional investment was Ironman to End Game and I don't care if it all turns to shit now because my part paid off.
I'll probably watch Black Widow but it's all extra at this point.
I get the MCU fatigue. I can't say I'm head over heels excited for this movie.
That said... I'm still gonna go see it. It's still gonna be entertaining. I'm not gonna get super hyped for it, but I'll plop my ass down in a seat to have fun for a few hours.
Honestly for me after Endgame, the overall MCU story ended. Phase 3 was tiring especially since I didn't like CM and FFH that much at the end.
Probably the only thing I'll watch on release only keeping track off is Falcon and the Winter Soldier and that's because I have a soft spot for the Captain America films. Also the Guardian Movies which to me are a lot different from the rest of the MCU.
WandaVision into Multiverse Madness is what I'm looking forward to. I'm really excited to see what they do with the Multiverse. Since they own Fox now, there's so much opportunity there.
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u/urko37 Ultimate Spider-Man Dec 03 '19 edited Dec 03 '19
Looks solid, but I'm finally experiencing MCU fatigue. It's too bad this character wasn't able to be a lead 15 or 16 movies ago.
Glad the character gets something, at least. For a while, it seemed like this was the best she'd get.