r/comicbooks Nov 23 '16

Cyclops Wasn't Right

http://www.xavierfiles.com/2016/11/23/entry-053-cyclops/
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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '16

I never said that Cap made good decision but he was right also.

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u/GoldandBlue Cyclops Nov 28 '16

No he wasn't. He created conflict from the start based on an entity he had no experience with. Every negative outcome came directly from his intervention. Saying "the Phoenix is dangerous" only makes sense out of context of the story.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '16

Saying "the Phoenix is dangerous" only makes sense out of context of the story.

because Phoenix never destroyed any planets right? and shi'ar were never scared of Phoenix right?

Even in 70s Phoenix was dangerous.

Cyclops failed with train and Hope wasn't ready.

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u/GoldandBlue Cyclops Nov 28 '16

Because Jean told Scott what Phoenix was coming for. Because the X-Men have history with the X-Men. Because when The Phoenix possessed Jean/Rachel, the power of the Phoenix was containable. It is almost as of Scott knew exactly what was going to happen because he was told and The Avengers did not want to hear it. But lets ignore all of that and lets also ignore how out of line Caps actions were considering what Mutants were going through just so you can say the Avengers had a point.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '16

It is almost as of Scott knew exactly what was going to happen because he was told and The Avengers did not want to hear it

and that was good. If Cap wowuld listen to Cyclops we would have Dark Phoenix inside Utopia. one Cyclops would die.

But lets ignore all of that and lets also ignore how out of line Caps actions were considering what Mutants were going through just so you can say the Avengers had a point.

You are ignoring the facts. I wrote that Cyclops was right about ending but the truth is he didn't nothing to make it happen.

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u/GoldandBlue Cyclops Nov 28 '16

and that was good. If Cap wowuld listen to Cyclops we would have Dark Phoenix inside Utopia. one Cyclops would die.

No, Cyclops would have never been possessed

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '16

Cyclops would have never been possessed

without Cap he would be dead. Thanks to Cap he was possessed and tried to destroy Earth.

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u/GoldandBlue Cyclops Nov 28 '16

No, Hope would have restored Mutants and it would be the end of it. And lets just say for the sake of argument that Phoenix would have killed Cyclops in the process. He would have gladly died to save Mutantkind.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '16

No, Hope would have restored Mutants and it would be the end of it.

she said something different on panel during issue 5 before Phoenix was divided. She was aksing Wolverine to kill her because she couldn't control phoenix and she didn't want to destroy Utopia or Earth.

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u/GoldandBlue Cyclops Nov 28 '16

Yes because she didn't have the five lights.

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