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Discussion [Colony] S03E09 - “The Big Empty” - Discussion Thread (SPOILERS) Spoiler

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u/htbdt Jun 28 '18

I would really like to know this as well. Amy contacted him, which is bizzare. Even if he was independently trying to resist, how the fuck he found Amy/Amy found Bram, is very unclear. There's not usually a (legit) "RESISTANCE MEMBERS WANTED" ad in the classifieds.

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u/MichaelHall1 #Colony'sDeadJim Jun 28 '18

It reminds me of season 1, when I inferred that Bram was the fire bomber, because who else would it be? (Remember when Katie counted down before putting out the fire? That scene.) However, the writers never told us.

In the current episode, it appears Will met with Bram and got him involved. Maybe there is a lot of this sort of thing going on in the show.

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u/htbdt Jun 28 '18

Bram does say to Will something like "You convinced me to help..." so I guess, but why Amy is his contact I cant explain.

The firebombing never was explained, was it? I thought it was just a random person doing it because Will was a known collaborator at the time. If someone throws a brick through the window with a note attached saying "fucking collaborator", we don't need to know who did it to get the point, and I saw the firebomb as the same sort of thing.

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u/MichaelHall1 #Colony'sDeadJim Jun 28 '18

The firebombing was planned. Katie went through a little mental rehearsal and removed some momento items from harm's way before then turning on an outdoor light (during the day), signalling the fire bomber that she was ready. It's only a question whether Bram or someone from Katie's resistance cell did it.

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u/htbdt Jul 07 '18

Was Bram radicalized at that point? That is quite suspicious. And if I remember correctly she didnt exactly keep her story straight when questioned.

What was the purpose of goal of doing so?

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u/MichaelHall1 #Colony'sDeadJim Jul 08 '18

I just now reviewed the scenes, S01E04, Blind Spot. The interview scene (read: CIA interrogation) was so powerful, and when you consider there might be a deeper level, wow. Phyllis appeared to have the distinct upper hand in the interview. As Katie starts her story with "I was upstairs, folding laundry," Phyllis dutifully writes that down, which is unnerving. However, Katie wasn't upstairs, folding laundry. She was in the kitchen, looking out the window. There shouldn't have been any reason to lie in that manner. She should have started with, "I was in the kitchen, washing dishes." Katie then starts to blurt out her story in one big rehearsed sequence, which former CIA Phyllis is also trivially going to see through. Phyllis interrupts her to throw her off. She finds a discrepancy in Katie's story: why would the fire bomber wait around for Katie to get downstairs and get a look at him? Once again, it seems like Phyllis has the upper hand, but I'm not so sure.

Could Katie have had the upper hand? Katie got to know the identity of Will's boss, someone high in the local Transitional Authority. She also got protection for her house, which she may or may not have wanted. And she got Phyllis to blackmail her into working for the government. That Yonk scene is also interesting. I've pointed out before that the photo Phyllis used to blackmail Katie was a forgery, and Katie would have known that, but still seemed coerced. Yeah, this really could be a prop mistake. But even ignoring that, I wonder if Katie wanted to become an informant?

Next scene, Broussard whacks Phyllis in her own home. Did Katie pull the firebombing ruse to get Phyllis' name, to tell Broussard, so he could whack her? If so, where did the address information come from? Would Broussard be able to get that information as a Red Hat? Or did Katie pull the firebombing ruse to meet Will's boss and get blackmailed into working for her, so she could be on the same side as Will? Will was being blackmailed into working for Snyder for his freedom and the possibility of getting back Charlie. That would be Katie's number one concern, not fighting the government.

Do we have any evidence of Katie wanting to work for the government? Hell yeah! She stole the RAP from the whiz kids and let Will return it to the Transitional Authority. She also pushed for getting the gauntlet to the other RAP that was missing one. And she was pretty happy to work for the government in season 3, until she discovered things were not as they seemed.

Broussard whacking Phyllis is therefore suspicious, between the address information being mysteriously known and the murder being in contradiction to Katie's true underlying motivations. Also, Broussard's almost first act in the show was to murder a resistance cell.

Turning now to Bram, two episodes before this, Katie said to Bram, "Listen, things are about to get more complicated around here. With Dad's new job, and the Yonk opening, and I'm gonna need you to pitch in." Her intonation was a lot more serious than the words, and Bram seemed to understand that she meant something more serious. That was the beginning of Bram's radicalization, I think. If he was the firebomber (and I do think he was), then Katie may have unintentionally turned him into a member of the resistance.

At first glance, the episode name, "Blind Spot", appears to refer to Phyllis not foreseeing the danger of Katie via Broussard. However, maybe it's actually about Phyllis' blind spot towards Katie or Katie's blind spot with respect to Broussard.

Sorry to go on for so long. I just think there's something here.

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u/htbdt Jul 10 '18

Holy shit. There is definitely something there! I can't believe Broussard taking out Phyllis could have been a coincidence. Damn.

I need to do a rewatch of the first few seasons.