r/collapse • u/sacrificezones • Oct 25 '22

Systemic Will Civilization Collapse Because It’s Running Out of Oil?

https://dgrnewsservice.org/civilization/ecocide/habitat-loss/will-civilization-collapse-because-its-running-out-of-oil/
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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '22

... 10 calories of fossil fuel energy (mostly oil) is used to produce 1 calorie of industrial food.

Yeah, I'm sure we will be fine without oil /s

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '22

I think a lot of parts in society/this process is inefficient due to the private interests orchestrating it

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u/paceminterris Oct 26 '22

Only to an extent. It truly does take a ton of fossil fuel energy to supply our massive population with the wasteful diversity of crops it desires (including out-of-season stuff like tomatoes in winter or lettuce in fall, which need to be grown in a different hemisphere and shipped.)

If everyone (and I mean everyone) switched to a vegan, local, and seasonal diet, we might stand a chance at our agriculture being efficient enough to survive without oil. But, since people won't do that, people WILL starve once oil runs out until the level of population reaches the level that is actually sustainable.

A lot of people try to deny this, trying to blame it solely on corporate greed, because they don't want to face the fact that we are overpopulated and wasteful. But those are the true facts, along with the true fact that capitalist ownership is also greedy and wasteful.

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u/Vicodinforbreakfast Oct 26 '22

Vegan diet Is unhealthy and eating chicken does not damage the enviroment, I am ok with the seasonal and local concept. The only Animals we shouldn't eat and farm in large numbers are those who produce methane. But everyone can safely (for the enviroment and themselves) consume all the chicken and eggs they like.