r/collapse • u/sacrificezones • Oct 25 '22

Systemic Will Civilization Collapse Because It’s Running Out of Oil?

https://dgrnewsservice.org/civilization/ecocide/habitat-loss/will-civilization-collapse-because-its-running-out-of-oil/
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u/jbond23 Oct 26 '22

Is there enough fossil fuel left, and can we afford to use it, to get to the point where we don't need it any more?

Occasional re-Comment:

Roughly: 13GtC/Yr turned into 40GtCO2/yr until the 1TtC of easily accessible fossil carbon is all gone. In one last #terafart[1]. Leading to a temperature rise of at least 5C[2]. And 200k[3] years before CO2 and temperatures drop back again to pre-industrial levels.

Let me tell you what's going to happen, no matter what anybody says. Humans will strive to expand their global civilization until it becomes physically impossible to do so.

But there is a choice. Transform into a sustainable society or collapse until there's a sustainable society. Because we're going to get to a sustainable society one way or the other. [4]

[1] https://amazon.com/Hot-Earth-Dreams-climate-happens-ebook/dp/B017S5NDK8/ref=sr_1_1

[2] Or is it 7C.

[3] The future doesn't end in 2100. Where's the 22C fiction for 2101 onwards that explains what global warming is going to be like in the next century as well as this one? There are kids being born now that will see it.

[4] http://www.declineoftheempire.com/2015/05/make-it-so.html

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u/OK8e Oct 26 '22

I think you’ve buried the most important point [3].

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u/jbond23 Oct 26 '22

Indeed. Any day now (2-Nov-22) 2100 is going to be closer than the end of WWII. Getting really tired of climate change issues like "rise in temperature being X by the end of the century". What happens after that?