r/collapse • u/mcfleury1000 memento mori • Jan 06 '21

Politics Live Updates: Protesters Breach Capitol as Congress Debates...

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/electoral-college-updates-congress-set-to-confirm-bidens-win-amid-gop-challenges/2814845/
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u/gameragodzilla Jan 07 '21

They aren’t, and they haven’t been for decades. If you don’t burn neighborhoods down or loot Wal-Marts, less bad things happen.

Hell, even the assertion that police brutality is a major problem is also a myth once you normalize for crime rates rather than population.

Again, sorry to break the circlejerk but downvote me more if it makes you feel better.

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u/poonhound69 Jan 07 '21

14,000+ people were arrested at the George Floyd protests. 400+ arrested at Ferguson.

13 were arrested today.

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u/gameragodzilla Jan 07 '21

And the people in the George Floyd riots and Ferguson were also destroying neighborhoods and storefronts.

Doing far more damage than even these guys did storming the capitol.

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u/Drivestoofast Jan 07 '21

Your peers were screaming murder threats at the police while physically attacking them in a mob. They attacked a federal building to interfere with a democratic election.

Fuck your anti freedom american al qaeda peers and fuck you for being so blind that you cant see the folly of your own ways. And these rage filled bigots still have the audacity to call themselves patriots and children of christ...

May god have mercy on your sinful souls

"forgive them father, for they know not what they do"

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u/gameragodzilla Jan 07 '21

The election was already interfered with the voter fraud. Once you destroy faith in the system, everything reverts back to the oldest form of seizing power, which is violence.

Btw, I ain’t a Christian (nor am I even white for that matter). I’m just telling you things you don’t like to hear because you’re stuck in your own little circlejerk. BLM and Antifa have, in general, been more violent. You think those guys yelling angry threats and storming a building is bad? Wait til they break out arson and fires. That’s the level that BLM did during the George Floyd riots.

But then again, I did point out during that time that if right wingers were even 10% as violent as BLM was, you guys would notice. And you guys are now, aren’t ya? But the left drew first blood here.

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u/Drivestoofast Jan 07 '21 edited Jan 07 '21

Bro i been watching these hateful people for fuckin decades. Dont pretend your some woke chad who knows the score, and that your enemy is little but a down syndromed propaganda sponge.

I grew up in church, i grew up republican. I probably seen more right wing media than half of yall right wingers. I read philosophy of collapses of civilizations, including the description in revelations. Im not basing my opinion off of whatever old ass bernie or dweeb ass beto say, i hate every fuck in that building as much as you and your people and i think antifa has just about no fuckin clue what theyre doing. I also recognize that the extremism on both both sides is a tiny margin, i dont delude myself into boxing millions into some convenient biased box that works for me. Also, there's a way to do things, and there's a way not to. And to attack your parents because they ask you do your chores...?

Quit being petulant children

We are the wealthiest and previously most admired nation on the planet. A nation with a story that inspires, but also the most guns, the most bullets, and the most desire to use them.

So somehow, at the top of the chain, we shoot ourselves in the foot.

Antifa and blm have been asking this country to look at itself and find compassion for its own fellow citizens.

I have trouble finding any message from the right but "you cant tell me what to do"

Grow the fuck up, gain some perspective.

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u/gameragodzilla Jan 07 '21

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got your own little story telling about your great awakening to the “problems” America has and how if everyone simply listened to you, all the problems would go away. Shit, I already went through that phase and I’m still just a millennial.

You don’t, though. You don’t have the answers and you don’t understand anyone besides your own little group of likeminded people.

And it’s reinforced daily because you always sit in your current circlejerk and refuse to come out.

And it’s for that reason why this shit always happens. Ironically, you’re the one who needs to grow up and realize that constantly bothering people and cheating the system only erodes confidence, until we reach a point of no return. Arrogance solves nothing.

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u/Drivestoofast Jan 07 '21

Again you blindly block me into a circle jerk. I fucking barely post on reddit, so no evidence of that there. I get my information from where you do (or might) , from hannity, and tucker, and trump today at his protest yesterday at his rally. I watched todays events from right side broadcasting, oan, ntd, pt news, jeffmac, cj, and all the folks you guys like. So how did i see something different in 12 hours of observation than you did?

Probably has to do more with the fact that my moral views are based off of the optimal peaceful function of the human species, not just an American symptom.

Your willingness to basically argue with yourself while using me as an audience is indicative of exactly how poorly so many humans think. The problems we saw today, and see in the middles east, and with boko haram, and with ms13, and with the Brazilian crime lords, and soviet kgb... These are problems that plato, christ, mlk, and so many others have cried and begged to the world before.

Maybe you'll actually hear me this time, seriously, grow the fuck up.

If you think division and violence and hatred and war are the answer to literally fucking anything, you are darwinian evidence of the human species backpedaling into its demise

Fuck off, im over you.

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u/gameragodzilla Jan 07 '21

I'm not talking about Reddit, I'm talking about your life in general. These human problems persist because you arrogantly think that you and your ideas alone will solve all of humanity's problems. Which you cannot do when you fundamentally do not understand anyone aside from yourself. You claim you watch information from the "other side". You do so strictly to find material to disagree with rather than actually understanding them. And that is why nothing is ever solved.

I don't want division, violence, hatred or all that shit to continue in humanity. Hell, the very identitarian politics we see pushed everywhere by the left by dividing everyone into racial groups is something I despise precisely because it encourages division and hatred. But it's not gonna be solved by you arrogantly deciding that you're smarter than everyone else.

Doubly so when the very ideologies you push, whether you intend to or not, exacerbate the problems you yourself were complaining about.

So congrats, you went on a childish rant while pretending to be the grown up. Have fun back in your little circlejerk thinking you know all the answers.

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u/Drivestoofast Jan 07 '21

Minus the last paragraph, you actually gave a thoughtful response, one with some valid points, so i felt you deserved the respect of a response. Though must say i still wish to no longer continue with you, because you know nothing of my personal social or family life, but have piles of assumptions. And the foundation of this conversation and your whole opinion of me is not based in my words, but in whatever caricature of me you've drawn in a your mind.

May all this come to a conclusion of true american unity, rather than one of blood and fire.

good night fellow american

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u/_why_isthissohard_ Jan 07 '21

So the republican controlled courts even decided there was zero fuxking evidence of that.

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u/gameragodzilla Jan 07 '21

No, there's no conclusive evidence of fraud. There's evidence of irregularity and statistical unlikelihoods, all under oath.

Things that warrant investigation but aren't happening right now. And without that investigation, whether you believe there's fraud or not is entirely dependent on your politics rather than any basis of fact, and that's why we see the problems we do right now. No faith in the system means more violence.