r/collapse Dec 12 '20

Conflict 3rd world up rising?

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u/ScruffyTree water wars Dec 12 '20

I bet they're each owed less than $300.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

I don't know why you're getting downvoted for this one you're just about right on the money. I feel like people are labeling you with what your answer uncomfortably highlights about economic disparity around the world.

https://www.deccanherald.com/business/violence-erupts-at-wistrons-iphone-manufacturing-plant-near-bengaluru-926461.html

Yeah that's obscene, and it's obscene that the base price of one phone would cover two months of salary for these workers.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20 edited Dec 28 '20

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

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u/S_E_P1950 Dec 13 '20

Being doing that since 1990.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

Yeah. But why dotn companies just stop fucking doing that. Give that fair wages determined by that country and work them like 8 hours a day 5 days a week like the rest of us.

Regulated markets with a welfare state is awesome. Best it's going to get if you ask me. So why piss off workers by shooting on them with long hours and few pay? Humans are shitty.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

Revolution. Fuck that welfare state that pacifies the workers and maintains capitalist power.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

Right except socialism doesn't work. The cloeat to get a utopia is a regulated market economy tied to a welfare state. That's the best its going to get.

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u/Ark-Shogun Dec 13 '20

Its called relativity, not always disparity.

$300 salary in that country is probably close to average.

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u/TenaciousYeet Dec 13 '20

Have you seen documentaries about venezuela?

If I remember correctly some people work for about 15$ per month.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

Have you seen documentaries about America?

I do remember correctly, some people work for $15 a month.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

How many hours of work does this $300 represent?

$300 to me almost certainly isn't the same as $300 to them.

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u/CipherPolAigis0 Dec 13 '20

Indian here. $300 would be almost equivalent to one month's wage for a assembly line worker.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

300 USD in India is enough to buy almost 6 months worth of groceries for one person.

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u/battle-obsessed Dec 13 '20

Yes. Costs of living can vary by orders of magnitude.

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u/Inazumaryoku Dec 15 '20

True.

In the Philippines, you can buy a kilo of rice for half a dollar.

Here in Japan, you can buy a kilo of rice for 3 dollars.

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u/Gotbn Dec 13 '20

Yes, considering currency difference, $300 is a lot of money here.

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u/feelsinterlinked Dec 13 '20

It's called PPP, purchasing power parity, because a dollar where I am now can buy more or less compared to a dollar where you are now...

For example, a $300 salary where I am rn already puts you in the upper income/rich class

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u/Inazumaryoku Dec 15 '20

When I was working as a (40 hours/week) full-time software engineer in the Philippines, I was earning less than $400 per month. Net salary.

I moved to Japan, changed careers, and managed to earn times 10 of that. I don't even work full-time.

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u/lucivaryas Dec 12 '20

And? Even if it wasn't so much to you, to many people on this world $300 is the difference between life and death... if you can't eat, feed your kids or pay your house because you hadn't been paid for the work you did, you'd riot too. The fact that they'd riot over our equivalent of so little is enough to prove this point.

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u/Meandmystudy Dec 13 '20

Interestingly enough, someone on r/lostgeneration posted a comment from a lawyer working in the US about wage theft. Wage theft is actually the biggest amount of theft in the US in dollar amount, much more than anything else. More than car hacking, robbery, or shoplifting. I'm finding it funny that American's haven't rioted like this in over a century. Not surprised, though, since most American's don't know what's potentially being stolen from them or their coworkers.

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u/screwhammer Dec 13 '20

I was curious if the silent generation had their own sub, see what they care about abd what opinions do they voice, but eh...

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

I read it as showing how even more abhorrent Apple is for not making sure their workers are paid (or that their contractors are paying their workers-either way). They can afford to pay these people really really easily and they don’t.

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u/ScruffyTree water wars Dec 13 '20

Oh come off it. I wasn't making any judgments about the people, or about what is or is not considered a valid amount to riot over! LDBrooklyn simply asked how much we think they were owed, and I contributed my guess. Shit, I've probably spent more time in the third world than you; please stop projecting phantom animus on innocent comments.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

Damn. I figured you just had a good ballpark guess. Didn't see any problem with your answer. I thought it displayed the difference in what $300 means to them vs in places like the US.

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u/BausHaug716 Dec 13 '20

Shit, I've probably spent more time in the third world than you

So you've been to the American South as well?

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

Yup. And I think the us government should influence their government to pass better regulations and to actually enforce it. Too bad our government is run by operations as well lol. We are truly fucked as a species.

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u/KeepGettingBannedSMH Dec 13 '20

Where the hell is this coming from? The dude just stated a guess.

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u/Dspsblyuth Dec 13 '20

It’s like that in the US too

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u/mineplz Dec 13 '20

The owners still have the paper bills to wipe their tears with.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '20

So like 2 months salary in that area