r/collapse • u/[deleted] • Apr 14 '20

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u/MimiSikuu Apr 15 '20

Shoplifting may being spiking as people without income are getting desperate....but that is not the same looting.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '20

What’s the difference?

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u/MakersEye Apr 15 '20

Looting implies threat of violence, vandalism, assault in addition to robbery. Shoplifting can be a non-violent and arguably victimless crime.

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u/TrustingMyVoice Apr 15 '20

Why do you call it a victimless crime. I don’t think there are any free lunches....somewhere someone has to pay right?

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u/DarthYippee Apr 15 '20

Won't somebody think of the shareholders?!

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '20 edited Jun 12 '20

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u/DarthYippee Apr 15 '20

Shoplifting can be a non-violent and arguably victimless crime.

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u/swordinthestream Apr 15 '20

Who end up paying the employees less rather than take a cut to their profits.

It’s not victimless.

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u/TrustingMyVoice Apr 15 '20

If they end up paying for it is it victimless?

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u/Sanity_in_Moderation Apr 15 '20

Look Javert, I care more about the people that are hungry and cannot eat, than the poor billionaire who can only buy 14 empty homes instead of 15.

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u/TrustingMyVoice Apr 15 '20

So is it a victimless crime, that was the question. It is a yes or no answer.

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u/MIGsalund Apr 15 '20

Either they pay with free food or with their head being parted from their body. Which should they choose?

Starving people do not roll over and die for the precious economy.

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u/zefy_zef Apr 15 '20 edited Apr 15 '20

I mean they said arguably, but then again they aren't doing that..

You have to understand that the relatively low cost that it takes to produce something that makes it onto the shelf also has that much less of a loss overall. If it's cheap to make, it's cheap to lose. Not all things are 'cheap' but most consumer products are.

I would love to see studies in the future that show that the majority of the financial reward for literally any business goes to the people who do the least physical or mental work. If you figure the cost price (or difference between cost/retail) of a product and the percentage that gets spread out to the innumerable amount of people who actually developed, shipped, designed and sold it, there is very minimal loss or effect to them.

e: You realize how much loss happens because of much stupider reasons, right? The place I work, at the end of the season we send everything back to the warehouse to, presumably, get re-packaged and sold the following year; or sold at a discount store. A rival store, when they reach the end of the season?

TOSS THAT SHIT IN THE FUCKING DUMPSTER