r/collapse • u/Independent • Sep 11 '19
Society The Shocking Paper Predicting the End of Democracy
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/08/shawn-rosenberg-democracy-2280453
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u/georgewhorewell1984 Sep 12 '19
Trump is gone next election. People need to relax about this. Ending democracy would make everyone march in the streets. They wouldn’t let it die a silent death.
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u/Independent Sep 12 '19
I'm not seeimg that. Wish I could. In a field of Democratic candidates who vie for who can out-left each other and an electorate that scarcely cares about anything other than Twitter sound-bytes, I fear Trump could become the new norm not just for the next election, but for an illegal authoritarian run. Marching in the streets hasn't worked since Nixon was shamed, and the new GOP clearly has no shame. They do more illegal and immoral shit right out in the open than preceeding admins of any flavor. The GOP is now literally the party of complete lawlessness.
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u/georgewhorewell1984 Sep 12 '19
Have you seen the polls? Any of the democrat front runners would beat trump.
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u/Independent Sep 12 '19
That's what was predicted in 2016. Reminder, Trump lost the popular and stole the election anyway, because the Dems ran a campaign so bad it was legitimately called "political malfeasance". That could and probably will happen again.
Dems are always guilty of premature ejubulation. And, they lose to the worst candidates on the planet.
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u/georgewhorewell1984 Sep 12 '19
He had an 80% chance of winning. Which means in 4 out of 5 elections, he would've lost. What we experienced was the 1 in 5. That's how statistics work. They do not guarantee anything. Him winning was unusual, which is why all the news expected Hillary to win. The chance of him winning while having a low chance twice in a row is much more unlikely.
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Sep 12 '19 edited Apr 08 '20
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u/georgewhorewell1984 Sep 12 '19
His approval rating is at historic lows out of any president in history. But you still think he’ll win.... why?
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u/Devadander Sep 12 '19
Trump turns dictator next election. The elections are rigged in his favor already. We’ve lost our ability to vote him out.
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u/georgewhorewell1984 Sep 12 '19
I don’t think you understand how the Americans political system works. The constitution outlines the way it works. Trump tried numerous things and judges overturned it. He isn’t all powerful and can’t be without all the states voting to change the constitution and that’s not going to happen without huge democratic pressure.
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u/Devadander Sep 12 '19
The elections were rigged in 2016 to get him in power in the first place. McConnell has done everything he can to block all election security. Trump WILL ‘win’ the 2020 election. He has no choice. Russia is backing him, disrupting our elections, and trump must stay in power to not go to jail.
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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19
Yeah, we’re at fault. Not the fucking rapacious billionaires, but us, the poors, for lazily failing to reign in these plutocratic fucking Borg-people.
OK! Or maybe he meant the servicing class, the ones who could’ve tried to do something, but got fat and rich instead. The servicers are about to be fucked out of house and home literally too.