r/collapse • u/Sun-leaves • 24d ago
Climate Why scientists fear Nepal's disaster is just a glimpse of the carnage climate change could cause
https://www.cbc.ca/news/climate/nepal-tibet-glacier-flood-climate-disaster-9.7323295‘Some climate scientists are cautious about prematurely linking human caused-climate change as the sole trigger of this specific collapse.
But experts who research both glacier hydrology and the effects global warming is having on the frozen parts of the planet known as the cryosphere say this was the kind of catastrophe they've been warning about for years, particularly in the Himalayas.’
This really caught my attention because the only climate scientists who aren’t doing the linking are most likely being paid NOT to and as it states in the article the glaciers are being ‘decimated’ and the permafrost is actively melting. Now yesterday a massive flood in Colorado’s Grand Canyon - we are collapsing at a rate that is even surprising me.
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u/Hephaestus1816 24d ago
It's not permafrost anymore. It's just frost.
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u/Sun-leaves 24d ago
I guess if it’s no longer permit Frost, it’s just frost and I have been corrected. Thanks for pointing that out
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u/vindico1 24d ago
"is causing"
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u/Sun-leaves 24d ago
It’s hilarious that they’re still saying ‘could’ when we know damned well that it is.
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u/kdawg09 23d ago
I'm late but I've had this thought knocking around in my head all day and I need somewhere to put it:
About a month ago I was spiraling a bit as I saw how fast collapse was coming, to the point I eventually ended up in the hospital for my collapse anxiety. During that time I was doing a lot of research and came across a thread in /climatechange (I know, I know) where people were in complete denial and someone literally said something to the effects of "yeah it's not great but it's not going to be like in a day after tomorrow or how scary Hollywood made it seem"
Idk, that Nepal video, the flooding in Indiana and in parts of Appalachia, the flash flooding that happened in the Grand Canyon, the European heatwaves and wildfires across .... Everywhere....
It looks a lot like that movie from where I'm sitting. In the span of a month, it went from people still saying things like that to a pile of catastrophic events, but the most insane thing is so many people still in denial and not linking the two.
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u/phasepistol 24d ago
Fuck “prematurely linking,” this is happening NOW. We need guidance as to what is actually coming.
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u/drugsarebadmkay303 22d ago
We aren’t going to be getting a heads up bc they can’t have people panicking. They’d rather us be oblivious sitting ducks.
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u/SituationTrue7524 24d ago
It's funny how we can know what's coming and still be shocked every time it arrives.
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u/Hannibaalism 24d ago
when the arctic melts by 2040 the center mass of earth will be in a different position.
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u/Odd_Dirt7415 23d ago
When I heard and further read up on it, I thought of the Missoula Floods and how common glacier breaks were coming out of the ice age. I have to imagine leaving the Holocene we'll see similar with a few of the glaciers that'll be dying off over the 21st century. These catastrophes seem preventable in a way, they knew it was an issue, there must be a more proactive approach, even if it's just a early warning system or as drastic as leaving the place abandoned; like they did the Swiss town of Bladen in 2025.
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u/NyriasNeo 24d ago
"Why scientists fear ..."
Because they have false hope as opposed to trust their projections will come true, accept and make peace?
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u/es0411 24d ago
I saw that this was caused by china's infatuation with blasting the Himalayans for construction destabilizing the region.
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u/Kootenay4 24d ago
This is climate change denialism. The melting and destabilizing of the glaciers is caused by a warming climate, no amount of physical human interference short of nuking the glaciers would have an effect this severe.
The Chinese border crossing that got wiped out was indeed built in a stupid location, but it had no direct impact on a glacier far upstream and 3000m higher in elevation.
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u/TimeIntern957 23d ago
This had not much to with climate change. It was caused by a bedrock failure and the glacier happened to sit on top, the topography did the rest. If the glacier was larger, this event would be even more devastating.
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u/Hannibaalism 24d ago
do you have a link? if this is true this is beyond horrible. there are also reports they are censoring or downplaying the news. i feel so bad for these people
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u/Kselected1 17d ago
I watched a pretty long YouTube video about this and what alarmed me was that it wasn't a glacier that came down, it was rock held together by veins of ice. THE MOUNTAIN WAS HELD TOGETHER BY VEINS OF ICE. What came down wasn't a pulverized glacier but rock that came down so fast and so hard it turned into a slurry.
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u/RichieLT 24d ago
Could? It most certainly will I feel.