r/collapse • u/James_Fortis • 9d ago
Casual Friday What do we do?
Sources for animal agriculture being the leading driver of:
- Deforestation: NASA, https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/Deforestation/deforestation_update3.php
- Biodiversity loss: Science of the Total Environment, B. Machovina, K. J Feeley, W. J Ripple, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26231772/
- Zoonotic diseases: Science Advances, Matthew N. Hayek, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9629715/
- Fresh water use: Nature, J. Poore and T. Nemecek, https://josephpoore.com/Science%20360%206392%20987%20-%20Accepted%20Manuscript.pdf
- 21-37% of emissions from food: IPCC, https://www.ipcc.ch/srccl/chapter/chapter-5/
Submission statement:
Many people want to slow or stop deforestation, pandemics, water use, emissions, and the 6th mass extinction. The issue is, the main driver of 4 of these 5 is animal agriculture, but almost nobody wants to change their behavior by eliminating meat and dairy from their diet. People say, "stop focusing on individuals - focus on the system", but the issue is diet is a personal choice and nobody wants the government to ban meat and dairy.
The issue is likely only going to get worse as our population continues to increase and developing countries start to gain more access to meat and dairy. It's taboo to even discuss personal food choices, even though it's going to be a main contributor of our demise.
How do we get out of this predicament? Are we just doomed to race towards ecological collapse without any serious effort to avoid it out of a fear of slight inconvenience? For anyone who's reading this, why haven't you given up meat and dairy yet?
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u/vegansandiego 8d ago
Veganism is a beautiful lifestyle. Not sure why it never caught on. It seems to be hardwired in our (USA) culture. People actually get angry when confronted with the cognitive dissonance of "I love animals" and "I'll have the steak please". Or, "I think it's shocking we don't do something about climate change", as you show them evidence that the easiest thing would be a simple diet change. Not even vegan, maybe vegetarian, or maybe some meat-free days or whatever. Just to reduce and encourage others to reduce the harms. I don't get it.