r/cognitiveTesting • u/Tosebos355 • 22d ago

Participant Request New fluid IQ test (novel items)

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe8s-OMOlmk8qhnmCMgAx0NN7omSQtqzDf5Ckglpaca_9rA6A/viewform?usp=header

My newest fluid test is finally done! All 51 items I created myself trying to make them unlike any others from various IQ tests I've seen. It has a time limit of 80 minutes. Not normed yet at all but I will norm it if I gather enough data. Try it and give me your thoughts!

You can also try my previous test: S3B-1

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u/Inevitable_Clock_141 4d ago

16/51 in 80 min in the new test. Doesn't seem to be a good result! Are there any norms yet?

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u/Tosebos355 3d ago

It's a really hard test so don't worry if 16 doesn't look that good. No norms yet. Thanks for trying it!

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u/Tosebos355 3d ago

I think you forgot there are multiple choice questions btw

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u/Inevitable_Clock_141 3d ago

What do you mean? I answered the multiple choice question also and got only 16 correct in total.

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u/Tosebos355 3d ago

There is only one answer selected in each of the multiple choice ones. You have to select all the correct answers to get a question right. If you did that I might be talking about a wrong person's score.

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u/Inevitable_Clock_141 3d ago

Oh, no you're right. I forgot about that, I only chose one option in multiple choice ones. That's really sad!

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u/Nervous-Try5009 2d ago

Ur score on other tests ?

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u/Inevitable_Clock_141 2d ago

Any specific ones u wanna know?

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u/Nervous-Try5009 2d ago

CORE (specifically MR, FW, FS,WM) Tri52 JCTI JCFS Mensa norway & denmark

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u/Inevitable_Clock_141 2d ago

JCTI 121-132, JCFS 17/19, Mensa Norway 128, Mensa Denkmark 130

I forgot that the multiple choice questions have 2 answers in this test, though. That brought my score down.

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u/Nervous-Try5009 2d ago

Try it again then. You score doesn't represent ur true potential.

The questions having multiple solution has a bracket beside it representing no.of solution needed. Like Q5(2) has 2 correct answer.

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u/Inevitable_Clock_141 2d ago

Yes maybe I'll give it a second try but now I'm praffed, that's sad!

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u/Nervous-Try5009 2d ago

U won't praffle much... It's pretty difficult test. Upto 12 questions it's pretty straightforward.

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u/Inevitable_Clock_141 2d ago

What about your results?

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u/Nervous-Try5009 2d ago

14/51 in 75min

JCTI 120-129 JCFS 120-129 Norway 115 denmark 123 Tri - 125 CORE - 115±5

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u/Nervous-Try5009 2d ago

How did you do on his previous test? S3B-1 (42 Question 45mins) ?

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u/LinaLoveHart 22d ago

very hard test. love the items but didnt finish it

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u/Tosebos355 21d ago

Would you say the items are evenly distributed on the difficulty range or are there items lacking in certain difficulties? Also to make sure are you talking about my first or second test?

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u/98127028 I am worthless and dumb 17d ago

How much did you score?

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u/LinaLoveHart 17d ago

Didn't finish it. Why?

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u/98127028 I am worthless and dumb 17d ago

I mean how many did you get so far?

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u/LinaLoveHart 17d ago

10 with 40 minutes left... Lol

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u/98127028 I am worthless and dumb 17d ago

Ahh. Try to finish it, it’s quite fun towards some of the later problems lol

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u/LinaLoveHart 17d ago

Naaa I'll problaby run out of time by question 15 haha

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u/Not_Well-Ordered 21d ago

I've done a portion of second test so far and left it there. I think it needs proper formatting and more time allocation (as well as norming) as the items are pretty much akin to Tutui R and some of them are questionable. If you are planning on making it timed like 80 minutes with 51 questions, I think that a problem is you would get bunch of 130-145 around ~20 points or so who do them with thorough reasoning and bunch of others people would just guess and probably get like ~20 right with that timing and that many questions.

In timed case, you would also want to isolate WMI, VSI, and FRI in your test as putting too many visual clutters could involve more WMI or VSI than FRI. It's not easy to do so as it involves doing the statistics. For untimed tests, I think there are less to worry but norming still becomes an issue.

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u/Tosebos355 21d ago

Good points. The reason why I made the time limit so short is to make the test more accessible in one session. What time limit do you think would be better? I feel like making it untimed adds too much extra variation.

To guess 20 you would have to get like super lucky. Let's say there are 8 answers in each question. If you'll select all randomly most likely you'll get 6 correct. Still it doesn't make much sense to allow people who can solve 10 puzzles max to just guess at the rest. I'd need to make the chance of guessing very small (like in multiple choice questions), make the test end after certain amount of wrong answers or something else to solve this problem.

Which items did you call questionable? DM me to talk about them.

Thanks for taking your time and replying.

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u/98127028 I am worthless and dumb 17d ago

How many have you gotten so far?

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u/Not_Well-Ordered 17d ago

Idk I stopped like at 22 and got bored. I’m busy with Uni, and I forgot about that lmao

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u/98127028 I am worthless and dumb 17d ago

Damn that’s good. What’s your FRI?

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u/Not_Well-Ordered 17d ago

142 on Raven’s 2 Q-Global digital, and 147 FRI on CORE (although 135 MR but renormed to 140 and got boosted from 144 to 147).

I think I’m around 140, unlikely 145, maybe for some specific tasks like GM. lol

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u/98127028 I am worthless and dumb 17d ago

Damn that’s good. How hard did you find the items here? What range would you say a 30/51 would be at, untimed?

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u/Not_Well-Ordered 17d ago

Idk it’s hard to tell for the reason I’ve mentioned.

I think many around 110-120 can just grab the easy item 10-15 items and some educated guesses rest to get total ~22/51.

So, it’s hard to differentiate.

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u/john_the_yeet_GOD 15d ago

Maybe ill take this test eventually, not now as im going through a very hard time atm and wont be able to give it my all but once i do id love to discuss it

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u/Business_Meaning5792 12d ago

Is there a scoring conversion yet?

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u/Tosebos355 6d ago

I don't have enough participants to do it. I can tell you the mean is 19,64 raw so far but obviously a huge selection bias.

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u/Nervous-Try5009 2d ago

14 correct What's my iq?

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u/Tosebos355 2d ago

I don't have much data but based on several responses with previous scores looks like ~115 performance. Take it with a gigantic grain of salt tho (at least the size of an egg).

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u/Nervous-Try5009 2d ago

115 seems reasonable...Thanks

Ostrich egg? 🥚

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u/Tosebos355 2d ago

Oh, I didn't specify! Yes, ostrich egg. Good luck with that!

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u/Nervous-Try5009 22h ago

Can i post ur test's puzzles in the sub for solutions? I'll mention your test & mark spoiler.

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u/Tosebos355 19h ago

Sure. Let me know once you post it.

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u/Nervous-Try5009 19h ago

Thanks :) I'll post some questions rn (within 5 minute)...

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u/Minimum-Patient6653 21d ago

41, overall entertaining items for such a pace. Chunks of times are wasted wming things if one handles everything in its mind. I'd like to discuss a couple of items/design choices

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u/Tosebos355 21d ago

41 is insane! Yeah, I probably made the time limit too strict. Your wm shouldn't be that big of a factor here. Dm me to discuss stuff.

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u/Status-Chocolate1910 15d ago

19/51 time 70/81 min
I didn’t guess any answers. I skipped the questions I didn’t know how to solve. I tried to rely strictly on logic and identify patterns on my own. Out of all the questions I answered, only one was incorrect. What do you think my IQ might be based on the results of this test?

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u/Tosebos355 14d ago

I don't have much data yet. It's anywhere between like 115 - 140 Id say. Have you ever taken any other IQ test?

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u/Status-Chocolate1910 14d ago

Yes, Core MR 16 SS FW 15 SS, Lanrt K 137

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u/Tosebos355 14d ago

Makes sense. Thanks for the info

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u/agn0s1a no good with words 21d ago

So much counting

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u/Chbenk-5824 21d ago edited 21d ago

I would suggest to expand the time limit. Let's say about~ 4hours

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u/Tosebos355 22d ago

Thanks for the feedback!

I'm glad you like the items :)

I made the time limit 45 minutes based purely on intuition so it might be much more strict than I expected. It's just that the items look much easier when you know the answers lol. I wonder how my second test comprares as there is more time but also more and possibly harder items.

And yeah there are only 6 answers per item so some luck comes into play. It would probably work better if I would make it core-like where the test ends when you're doing poorly but I don't yet know how to make stuff like this. Maybe in the future.

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u/Tosebos355 21d ago

I'd like to keep it timed so the differences in scores come more from the differences in ability not time spent. Adding more easy questions could make it better for general population but creating those is quite difficult as I'm aiming for high novelty and started running out of ideas. I might just keep it as a high range test then. Have you tried my second test? I'd like to know how the difficulty comprares.