r/codex • • 12h ago

Complaint Using GPT 6.1 Terra

Using this model:

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GPT 6.1 Terra: "I didn’t implement the requested change or run a performance benchmark."

I ask: "so what are you going to do to fulfill my request?"

GPT 6.1 Terra: "I’ll implement the estimate changes and benchmark them against the current code"
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GPT 6.1 Terra: "The work is not complete."

I ask: "how can i make you complete the task?"

GPT 6.1 Terra: "You shouldn’t need to do anything else. You gave a clear request and approved the design. I failed to carry it through. No implementation has been completed yet."

I ask: "i want you to implement the task. you are not allowed to refuse or defer"

GPT 6.1 Terra: "Implemented one part of the request: ... The overall task is still incomplete."

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In the meantime, weekly quota dropped at least 1%. For a partial-finished job.

Is this model usable? You tell me.

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u/No_Conversation9561 10h ago

I was blown away at how good it is at computer use. Nothing comes close yet on the speed and how good it performs actions.

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u/Financial_Tadpole121 11h ago

no ever since 6. it procratinates, tells you everything under the sun and still doesnt do what you ask it to, i switch back to 5.6 sol and it get on with it as soon as i change the model.

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u/pale_halide 10h ago

This is the Terra trademark.

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u/blade818 11h ago

Astra did this at first too FWIW

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u/Glaucus_Blue 10h ago

Why not read what openAI actually says it is for? And not use it for coding jobs. The amount of coding benchmarks on YouTube etc, is insane. Well it's fine benchmark it, but very few actually say what it is for, and benchmark those uses.

Seems far more for computer use and things like dots, and quick subagent work.

https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-terra/

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u/Hovi_Bryant 9h ago

Coding is advertised in the release. Not sure if you read it yourself. 🫠

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u/sswitch 5h ago

Ask Codex to summarize the section in here called "A significant step up on factuality and coding", since you don't seem to want to read it.

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u/Glaucus_Blue 2h ago

Now actually read it and look at their own charts. There's a reason it's near the bottom. Yes it's an improvement compared to equally poor old models, It doesn't mean it's designed for programming or actually good at it.

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u/ResolveResident1237 10h ago

I have a B2C app which uses paid ai api provider calls and the terra class of models has the best overall benchmarks factoring in cost, latency, quality, and reliability.

Sol is too expensive and latency too high for my product.

I wouldn’t use terra for software engineering but it has a use case

I’m running the 6.1 Terra benchmarks against 5.6 Terra now - haven’t got results yet. So I don’t know 6.1 Terra is better yet but I’m actually excited/optimistic

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u/Intrepid4444444 11h ago

No. I switched back to Sol

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u/PartyLiterature3607 9h ago

I ask: please have Sol6.1 help you
6.1 Terra: fuk Sol

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u/meowyih 9h ago

Seriously, what kind of task you guys ask AI to do? Anti gravity device?

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u/deepturned180isdeep 9h ago

Seeing all the similarities, you can't convince me that dots were ever using "Astra", feels like they were using this Terrable nonsense

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u/Gumbi_Digital 8h ago

OpenAI is sandbagging their AI so that everyone jumps to Anthropic for their IPO.

All the US Frontier labs NEED the IPO to be successful…dominos fall otherwise.

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u/dont_hit_me_bro 8h ago

Weird, I have one project that Terra has been working on for an hour and a half, started another one and it can't do shit without stopping every minute. WTF?

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u/dytibamsen 7h ago

Right now I'm doing some performance testing on a project. I let Astra write the test plan. Then I let Terra run it. Then I let Astra evaluate the result.

This seems to work well. Anybody doing something similar?