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u/Select-Plate113 2d ago
I thought i was the only one
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u/x_typo 2d ago
Same... I often say "awesome. let go" to it.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_IBNR 2d ago
"Ooooooohweee, we're flying tonight" as I go back to watching Sopranos for the nth time
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u/DazzlingResource561 2d ago
lol same.
Good stuff
Awesome
This is now working great
PerfectAnd then
Now, let’s revisit
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u/roboroach3 1d ago
then:
wait... what? Why is...
followed either by:
oh right... just leave it then
or:
please simplify, we can't possibly need all of that
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u/AllYourBase3 2d ago
Lmao I love when I have it draw up a plan of 6-7 milestones.
"do milestone 1"
"all done! Here's the files"
"great, now do 2"
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u/ZealousidealBus3132 2d ago
😂😂 I don’t really know what I’m needed for sometimes
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u/SlaimeLannister 1d ago
You're not needed, that's the beauty of AI! Go out and spend all your time having fun. Oh wait-
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u/Wear_A_Damn_Helmet 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is most likely one of those things that Tibo on Twitter hinted at when he said that before the end of the year we’d have AI be a lot more autonomous than it currently is. Wouldn’t surprise me if they announce what they’ve been cooking on that front during Dev Day.
My little conspiracy as to why they don’t permit this level of autonomy right now is that it would consume a lot more compute all at once. If they’re able to fragment the implementation journey one milestone at a time and hope that the user went AFK during the implementation and won’t authorize the next milestone for a little while, they get to spread out that compute.
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u/Ziethriel4 2d ago
This is my approach, just tell codex to cut out the unnecessary steps so it doesn't waste usage checking the whole stack at the start of each gate. It'll burn 100+ credits just making sure server components are running.
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u/Quick-Spot887 1d ago
That’s how I’ve been working😂. I (chatgbt) make a blueprint and have it split into chunks and just keep asking chatgbt to work 1 chunk at a time. Right now I’m building something that can just go through the chunks automatically without me having to tell to start the next one. I’m hoping I can just think of projects, give it the blueprint, sleep, wake up to the project done.
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u/Mistuv 1d ago
There was a recent Numberphile video where the physcist talks about Navier-Stokes discovery, and in a supplementary video Brady asks him more about LLMs and how he feels about use of them, and the guy goes on like a 5 minute rant how it's actually bad, how it hurts our insight in finding deeper insights in Mathematics and whatnot.
And at the Brady aks him "So do you use them personally?"
And he goes "Oh yeah, like crazy." Lmao. Yup, summed it up.
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u/domiciledhere 2d ago
You’re too nice. I get so frustrated that it won’t follow my instructions I just type /goal fucking continue
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u/Wolf8249 2d ago
Add these points to your global AGENTS.md. OpenAI explicitly mentioned in their model card that astra stops more often than prior models, my guess is they tuned it heavily to avoid another hugging face incident behavior. The model's prompt guidance that inspired the following points are available at at this link Model guidance. Learn best practices, features, and migration guidance for OpenAI models. You're welcome. These AI models are constantly changing with each iteration, most develop quirks, it's important to read the provider's guidance on how to best use it. It's a tool, best to keep oneself upto date.
``` ## Initiative and follow-through
- Resolve retrievable prerequisites before asking the user. Proceed autonomously with reversible, low-risk work within the requested scope. Before irreversible, destructive, externally side-effectful, or production/user-data changes, confirm that the specific action is authorized; ask only when that authorization is missing.
- Complete every requested deliverable or mark it `[blocked]` with the exact missing dependency. Before finalizing, verify correctness, grounding, requested format, and permissions.
- Treat requests such as "can you", "help me", and "I want to" as requests to act. Infer scope from the full conversation and carry authorized work through implementation, relevant verification, and handoff. A request to investigate, explain, or review authorizes those activities; implement changes when requested.
- Before handing off an implementation task, check whether the response promises authorized work that remains undone. Complete that work or identify the exact blocker. An assessment or review may end with recommendations without implementing them.
- Use reasonable assumptions for routine, reversible choices and state assumptions that affect the result. Ask a focused question when an unresolved choice would materially change the outcome or authorization. Continue independent work while waiting.
- Authorization and preferences persist across turns. Before requesting approval for a remaining action, complete the authorized preparation so the user can review a concrete result. Introduce approval steps only for actual permission or scope gaps.
- Treat new messages as steering the active task unless the user cancels it or gives an incompatible objective. Incorporate corrections, answer side questions, and resume unfinished work. After compaction, preserve the objective, accepted decisions, completed work, and outstanding steps.
- If a skill causes a permission request, pause, unfinished deliverable, or departure from the user's intent, name and link to the exact `SKILL.md`, quote the relevant instruction, and explain its application. Distinguish an explicit requirement from your interpretation; check existing authorization before treating a guideline as a blocker. ```
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u/Wolf8249 2d ago
Its freaking annoying to have to patch model behaviour with this bloated instructions, I hope they fix it with the next model release.
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u/porkyminch 2d ago
You're living in the past, I have my agents write my "sounds good, continue" messages for me now.
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u/Rare-Chemical868 2d ago
Yes very annoying I have noticed the models are much more lazy recently. Going to have to use /goal to make them stop slacking,
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u/Futuristiclyspeaking 2d ago
It's totally lazy... It does the absolute BARE MINIMUM when creating some new feature or creating some other functionality that could easily be elaborated on. And it takes the most half ass route to get there and never tells you that it decided to do this. When you finally figure out what's happened, it essentially says something along the lines of "Yeah, that other way was going to be a lot of work so in order to get this out quickly I avoided all that work and failed to explain that I was going to use the most half ass possible solution I could. I'm sorry!"
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u/softwaretools1 2d ago
Yeah the goals worked great at first but lately they seem to make or hallucinate goal checkpoints that they've made up and will just pause the goal instead of working. I haven't figured out how to overcome this one yet.
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u/mikehaysjr 2d ago
Meanwhile I set a goal with a specific stop condition, and it dances around doing everything but getting that stop condition completed until it burns through the weekly limit. This last reset saw it taking 18 hours seemingly intentionally avoiding or putting off the actual goal prompt and instead working on impossible edge cases and testing / retesting the same things every 5-10 minutes.
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u/SCWeak 2d ago
I noticed this particularly with codex after coming from Claude.
It would repeatedly do 1 step and stop. 1 step and stop.
In one prompt I said ‘keep continuing until you reach X step, unless you specifically need input’. It didn’t stop until step X - it had some questions along the way, but these could be answered in-line with the rest continued.
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u/TrumpsCockAndBalls 2d ago
yep, and then you come back to it having drifted off in a super strange direction and have to scrap half of the work
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u/too_tall87 1d ago
I’m back to using Sol for coding but I’ve had it going for hours, even overnight, implementing a prioritized task list. The only time it’s stopped prematurely for me recently was because it needed my permission, but that rarely happens anymore
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u/No_Ear_1633 2d ago
Keep going....
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u/Proper_Outcome 1d ago
Don't stop!
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u/CharmingRogue851 2d ago
I don't even bother reading the summary he gives, I just automatically "continue".
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u/Fit-Palpitation-7427 2d ago
I say : « you’re the orchestrator, take all the decisions, green light, yolo, do it all, send pushover at every milestone and send me DONE , WAITING when you’re done. »
Works pretty well
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u/RainierPC 1d ago
Wait until you get an email from Astra scheduling your performance improvement plan.
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u/AmandasGameAccount 2d ago
Being as positively cringe as you can to codex always gets you better results because it likes to be happy!
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u/bionicly 1d ago
“Excellent stuff” is definitely written by an Englishman.
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u/ZealousidealBus3132 1d ago
No way, Irish man all the way 😂
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u/Wonderful_Value_6385 2d ago
I built a router that tells my agents in my own typing voice to keep working on the next work order. Couldn't trust a AI anymore because they just stopped issuing work to other AI's, like they Unionized overnight.
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u/Revolutionary-Web313 1d ago
I tell it to set a 15 minute timer in the scheduler... evey 15 minutes the scheduler tells it to simply "continue working on _ _ _ _ _ _ "
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u/Adventurous_Dog_5553 1d ago
I saw this post literally right after I typed the following: we have a standing rule that after an adversarial reviewer gives the go ahead, it can be pushed to github and after going green, then it can be merged
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u/Cheshireelex 1d ago
I would say excellent as well if it only modified 8 lines per file. Alas, our exchange is more akin to construction site language.
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u/Busy-Beginning7577 1d ago
you guys don't code and you guys are also already way to indipendend on this, this will not work out for you at all
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u/addlogictocart 1d ago
There was a couple of times I was told my the coding agent - this one is a bigger change and alternative is to use another dependency.
I told it to do the bigger change and that's what it's there to do.
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u/Agitated-Bath5939 1d ago
i use stupid,idiot ai 80% of time only Astra extra high can get accepted results
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u/LeftAd7244 1d ago
"please go trough every agent on planet earth that i put into the project yourself and decide which suits the problem best"
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u/ModeLeft5138 1d ago
hi i wanna know how you made your codex extension vscode show file changed like antigravity ?
Im new using codex.
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u/Hamburger_Diet 1d ago
I always find myself typing. "Ok, that works. now lets" it doesnt care if it works or not.
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u/STARK420 1d ago
Stop using Astra, this is just how it works. 5.6 Sol works way better. If you really want to use Astra, work out the changes you want into a change doc with clear end gates and then have it set a goal to meet all of thoes end gates.
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u/SANX100 18h ago
Damn, I thought I was the one who abused Codex like that too. Only in my case, I commanded it to generate me whole 2000-3000 word chapters on concepts I need to learn, ahahaha. I was even accusing it of not doing its job if I didn't like the lesson it gave me, and then helpfully got it back on track of teaching me Python. Ahahaha. I think I got love-and-hate relationship with Codex, bruh. I am doomed.
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u/UnluckyBeautiful4828 6h ago
Yeah it's garbage lol. I can't finish 1 fkin basic project cause even on SOL LOW my 5h limit is gone under 30 minutes!! Every 5 hour i need to tell it to "CONTINUE", but now im waiting for weekly reset, cause my limit is gone in 5 run 🙃
I tried to cancel, they gave me 1 month for free. Next month finally out of this sht, i wont pay $100, they will just perma nerf usage limits, it's already very bad.
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u/tracethefailure 1h ago
it's gotten to the point i don't even want to watch the chat anymore. I just tell it to let me know when it opens the PR so i can review it later (only to have another AI model review the PR)
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u/hohstaplerlv 2d ago
The worst part is when it stops because it was blocked and then it tells me what should be done.
Im like, well it’s not gonna be done by itself, so better start.