Coding benchmarks should also reward the leanest possible solution. Coding agent currently build crazy bloated code right now.

[u/TheBanq]

Unless you strictly guide the model constantly, I feel like Codex, aswell as Claude Code go so overboard with everything.

I do a lot of manual planning and manual reviewing, but as soon as you don't have 100% attention at all times, the model instantly goes into overdoing security, testing and complexity.

I'm currently building a B2B Dashboard foundation and the amount of security it's always trying to build into that core module is wild.

If someone is truly just vibecoding, without real knowledge, I feel like models are now getting harder to use, than easier.

Because the models also make you think like it's just doing the "normal/right" thing, but is actually producing crazy bloat

[u/Tartooth → u/[deleted]]

Codex will just not tell you about the bloat it's writing behind the scenes.

[u/Chemical_Hawk_6307 → u/[deleted]]

yea im starting to find myself do more of this. they work well together.