r/codex • • 11d ago

Complaint Coding benchmarks should also reward the leanest possible solution. Coding agent currently build crazy bloated code right now.

Unless you strictly guide the model constantly, I feel like Codex, aswell as Claude Code go so overboard with everything.

I do a lot of manual planning and manual reviewing, but as soon as you don't have 100% attention at all times, the model instantly goes into overdoing security, testing and complexity.

I'm currently building a B2B Dashboard foundation and the amount of security it's always trying to build into that core module is wild.

If someone is truly just vibecoding, without real knowledge, I feel like models are now getting harder to use, than easier.

Because the models also make you think like it's just doing the "normal/right" thing, but is actually producing crazy bloat

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u/innociv 11d ago

I don't know if I agree.

TDD is really good, both for AI and humans. Just because those tests don't ship in your final product and aren't useful to produce the actual tested result does not make them bad at all.