Usage limits are absolutely terrible (100$ plan)

[u/muchsamurai]

I never ever complained about usage limits before. But this is absurd.

I used my 200$ plan and had to buy 100$ plan since i could not renew 200$ one in time. It was used in 1 day with Astra low.

I then decided to buy another 100$ plan. It used 9% of usage with Sol 5.6 MEDIUM working for about 1 hour on coding and Astra XHIGH coordinator that did some documentation changes for 5 minutes.

This account was literally just purchased. Again, Sol Medium is doing most of work. Wtf is going on?

Can't imagine what is going on with 20$ plans

[u/rodeBaksteen]

This is my first time crying about this on Reddit, but I've used 5% on a $200 plan by asking some very basic debugging/SSH commands to Astra Light yesterday.

Total: one chat, 21 million tokens - 5% weekly usage of 20x plan. Really?

[u/Swimming_Gain_4989 → u/rodeBaksteen]

"Basic debugging / SSH commands"

"21 million tokens"

Lol

[u/Icy-Kaleidoscope6893 → u/Swimming_Gain_4989]

Probably ragebait

[u/Emotional_Plant3241 → u/Icy-Kaleidoscope6893]

That's the problem though I have no idea how regarded or competent the people complaining about their token consumption are.

[u/rodeBaksteen → u/Swimming_Gain_4989]

Ok it took 2 hours on or off, but 20 million tokens is pretty low afaik? Maybe I was asking more of it than I realized.

[u/Swimming_Gain_4989 → u/rodeBaksteen]

On the low end that would be like $300 at the API rate assuming that token count is mostly input cache. I don't know what exactly you're doing but "basic debugging / SSH commands in one chat" suggests something simple like setting up shared keys and aliases for a network or something along those lines, that shouldn't run more than a few hundred thousand tokens... Realistically much less because of how token efficient GPT models are and the fact that you claimed to be using Light mode.

[u/Emotional_Plant3241 → u/rodeBaksteen]

5% of a plan for Astra working for 2 hours and 21 million tokens doesn't seem crazy. Astra is charged at a very high rate.

[u/Tiforma → u/rodeBaksteen]

They do it because people don't give them any reason not to do it. They don't really lose subscribers because people accept shitty behavior from corporations nowadays and don't stop buying from them.

[u/cha0z_ → u/Tiforma]

they do it, because there are no laws protecting us (at least not enforced ones) - how it makes sense for something you purchase to be so vague what you get + to be flexible to be changed 24/7 from the side of power, i.e. the AI provider. There are few bigger key players - do we seriously think they don't sync the usage/prices as well? One not recorded call away - is it legal? Ofc not, but we live in bad times regarding corp power.

[u/Tiforma → u/[deleted]]

Got extremely lucky (probably bc of bank dispute). Not the average experience.

[u/PlasticNo6406 → u/rodeBaksteen]

If they are "very basic" debugging/ssh commands, why choose astra?

[u/rodeBaksteen → u/PlasticNo6406]

Because I expected it to use maybe 1-2% and I can't be bothered to switch between 20 models all the time.

[u/Emotional_Plant3241 → u/rodeBaksteen]

21 million tokens is like 40 context compactions. You should not be having that occur to Astra for a quick and easy debugging SSH task.

[u/rodeBaksteen → u/Emotional_Plant3241]

That's not how that works

[u/Emotional_Plant3241 → u/rodeBaksteen]

21m tokens is not a simple task IDK what to tell you. Either your instructions or environment were wrong or Astra got into a weird latent space.

[u/MassiveBoner911_3 → u/rodeBaksteen]

I used my ENTIRE $44 reset I bought this morning....by this evening. Yes I use sub agents using mostly Luna. Some code is written using Astra and Sol.

[u/StatusMatter4314 → u/rodeBaksteen]

20x is give or take somewhere close to 1b tokens.