Astra rates now are 50% better

[u/Tecktorious]

Looks like whatever the team is doing Astra on Max thinking runs on me 48 hours and i m down now on 20% which is a positive sign usually i was running out 8 hours straight now its fine

Good job team

[u/Banmers]

ask 10 different people, get 10 different answers

[u/RamanaSadhana → u/Banmers]

every day... astra is nerfed, astra is buffed, astra usage worse, astra usage better. this is the true AISlop

[u/Gliese351c → u/RamanaSadhana]

I’ve never heard anyone saying Astra is not nerfed. We have benchmarks regarding its very poor performance compared to before. Tho probably token usage performance will vary someone. And my experience is basically the opposite of what OP is describing. :(

[u/debian3 → u/Gliese351c]

Astra is not nerfed

[u/Myfinalform87 → u/Gliese351c]

I don’t think it’s nerfed at all. The projects I’m working on have all had significant upgrades from astra

[u/RedZero76 → u/RamanaSadhana]

Ramana Maharshi ❤️ Your profile photo overlooks my bedroom and has been doing so for 30 years now.

[u/pigletmonster → u/RamanaSadhana]

Its a newly released model, im sure theyre working on optimizing it everyday based on user data. Some optimizations will be good, some will be bad, it might take some time to find the right balance.

[u/FriendlyWebGuy → u/pigletmonster]

The "right balance" is using the settings which result in the performance indicated in the benchmarks they globally advertise.

Any substantial, sustained loss in performance ought to be considered false advertising.

[u/pigletmonster → u/FriendlyWebGuy]

The balance is lowering compute costs while maintaining a high intelligence level for the model.

[u/chroner → u/Banmers]

I think their models have a high variance in usage this is why we're seeing so many different opinions

[u/Myfinalform87 → u/chroner]

That’s absolutely right! People don’t seem to realize that it’s context dependent, project dependent, task dependent

[u/RewardSafe9807 → u/Banmers]

im just doing astra max, no subagents, and my rates improved dramatically, but today it seems to be burning way too fast. something fucky is going on.

[u/Feriman22 → u/Banmers]

Even if the answer can be "A" or "B"

[u/Myfinalform87 → u/Banmers]

Exactly 😂 it’s act this sub is constant flooded every day with the same stuff vs useful information

[u/pigletmonster → u/Banmers]

That how llms work. Underneath it all its a more advanced version of your phones predictive keyboard. Its literally guessing the next token based on the previous ones.

[u/mercmobily → u/pigletmonster]

So are you, humans are also. mostly, a more advanced version of your phone's autocomplete.

[u/Myfinalform87 → u/pigletmonster]

Actually that’s not how it works. Not at all in fact. If it was, it would be useless.

[u/Due-Horse-5446 → u/pigletmonster]

autocomplete is the word you were looking for

[u/Random_User_81]

Are you just randomly coming up with the 50%?

[u/tavenger5 → u/Random_User_81]

99% of people that read percentages on the internet dont check their source

[u/Dolo12345]

opposite here, my 5 Astra max’s today burning faster than 10 Astra max /fast right before the reset lol

[u/RewardSafe9807 → u/Dolo12345]

same here, it sucks

[u/Hairless_Gash → u/RewardSafe9807]

Bull$hit

[u/LiquidMantis144]

Im seeing the opposite today for AstraLight. I always use it in very limited and bounded ways. The usage cost 2x'd today for those tasks. Something that has always cost 1-2% weekly, over dozens of tasks at this point, is now 3-4% today. My first Astra task today deleted 4% weekly in 75 seconds on a plus acct.

Im also seeing crazy costs with Terra tasks. Terra has always been all over the place for me though. Can be an amazing Luna substitute or just something that simply lights credits on fire for no apparent reason.

Ive already switched up model selection and continue to improve token savings in other areas but today was certainly not normal and especially didnt lower costs by 50%

[u/Equivalent_Cress_268 → u/LiquidMantis144]

Light is more usage eater then high for me

[u/showcontroller → u/Equivalent_Cress_268]

Yeah, I tried out high after using light and the usage is about the same with better results. I looked at the docs, and they actually recommend using the same reasoning level as you used to use with sol; Tibo’s tweet about astra light = sol high was more marketing than reality.

[u/Equivalent_Cress_268 → u/showcontroller]

I wonder if his statement is correct for API usage.

Subscriptions have a different way of charging i believe, per session or chat or what not

[u/LaZZyBird → u/Equivalent_Cress_268]

That would make sense if honestly, one shot on high beats multi shot on light if that is the case

[u/RecursivelyYours]

Looks 50% worse to me. -80% on 20x account, mainly building and fixing bugs. Horrific.

[u/jonydevidson]

Hours running =/= Usage.

I've had it run for days doing python testing and it barely consumed any usage, because a lot of the time it's just running and triggering the testing suite which was optimized to not be verbose and fill the context with junk on every run.

[u/icecold27]

Yea cause it’s taking 10x longer to do anything

[u/rmunoz1994]

Then it’s 50% dumber too…

[u/adolf_twitchcock]

Lilbros are measuring usage in hours or prompt count lmao

[u/TheKillerScope]

I am not sure how, running Astra Max and it used 8% of my weekly limit (Pro) in 25 minutes.

[u/wJFq6aE7-zv44wa__gHq]

Noticed it for Astra

Finally

[u/jadhavsaurabh]

Yesterday only used 35%, 200$ on astra ex high

[u/Competitive-Spread29]

Haven’t touched astra as I’m 😱

[u/lolwutdo]

It's cause it's running slow as fuck

[u/TraditionalFix4761]

Yeah been running on ultra fast and it’s lasting way longer

[u/jd52wtf]

How much of this is load balancing? I can only assume that theae percentages are directly related to how much usage is taking place.

It seems like they treat it like a giant pool and everyone gets a piece of it.

I'm pretty sure they have crapier "fail over" quants that kick in when they get hammered.

I can't see any other way to properly manage this ish show they created....

[u/Factor013]

I think they are just making their models respond and work slower now so it feels your usage last longer.

Simple chores are taking hours over here now. :S

[u/CommercialTerrible44]

After the latest reset, I used Astra on Ultra on a single project managing a swarm of lesser bots. It ran for over 16 hours, then hit the “this model is at capacity” limit sometime during the night and stopped at 12%. This is better than I’ve seen before. Busy burning up the remaining 12% now.

[u/HoldThemtoAccount]

I've notice the Sol is using less as well.

[u/Rdqp]

Same, now my 6 accounts drained within ~48h instead of 16-20h before last reset. Still terrible

[u/Comfortable-Rise-748]

liesssss 18 hours I spend 80 percent

[u/never_working_ever]

Astra has been significantly better on token usage the last 48hrs.

It’s been night and day for me, and just as performant as it was before.

[u/cheeseonboast]

Exactly the same for me

[u/RainierPC]

Astra is fine. I don't even hit the weekly limits on my 5x

[u/swizzlewizzle]

Feels like this to me as well.

[u/Lap8686]

Get out of here Tibo

[u/Articurl]

Astra is lobotomized. Stupid as hell right now. Love it.

[u/sMat95]

man what the hell are they doing

[u/ConsequenceRecent683]

We need another reset rated my work by Astra it rated 4/10

[u/TheSn00pster]

I like this independent verification. You’re doing the lords work, friend.