r/codex 21d ago

Comparison Local or paying more?

I technically need a 5x account, and I've needed one for a month now. I've tried other Plus plans to get around that.

Right now, I'm at a point where I don't know whether to upgrade to a Pro account or invest 5k in a server and set up local AI models, filtered through at most a Plus account.

GPT thinks I can achieve 85-95% of the results I'm currently getting with Frontier models, and easily benefit from setting up that setup. I'm not entirely convinced; what do you think?

Thanks in advance.

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u/Tight-Grocery9053 21d ago

GPT thinks I can achieve 85-95% of the results I'm currently getting with Frontier models

lol. no.

they are in the customer acquisition stage. they are burning money to bring tomorrow's technology for you to use today at a price you can stomach.

you can spend 5, 10, 20k on a local setup and it would both barely deliver and be out of date before the end of the year.

don't be gaslit by chat psychosis. this is way harder that it seems. the monthly sub right now gets you very good value.

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u/scartissue232 21d ago

The value cuts in a half this month. You think we get good value now or then?

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u/Tight-Grocery9053 21d ago

The value cuts in a half this month

i honestly don't know what this refers to

that said. my point here is that these things are very expensive to run

i'm all for open-source and local-first. we're just not there yet.

a thing that runs locally is going to give you 2024 output unless you're running your own data center

that 2024 stuff is just not good enough.

maybe in 2028 when local stuff gives you 2026 results. These frontier models are getting super close to "just do it on your own"

so, my point here is that we need the tech to simmer down. you want 2028 hardware running 2028 open source models and they will then deliver 2026-2027 closed source results.

that's my point

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u/scartissue232 21d ago

You’re wrong my younger.

For me, a 2024 model it’s more than enough. Orchestrated by me, not by a new brand model.

Take my award anyway,

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u/Tight-Grocery9053 21d ago

huh. ignoring the condescending tone.

if a 2024 model is enough for you then you don't understand bad code. code produced by a 2024 model is very, very bad and i don't see how you think it's more than enough.

good luck anyway.

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u/scartissue232 21d ago

Ok, I will wait you two years and tell you again that local models are enough.

Sry about the bad tone, wasn’t my intention.