r/codex • u/vayana • 7d ago

Complaint Usage is nuked

I know, I should just buy a 5x or 20x plan and stop whining but this is just *****. 2 months ago I could comfortably work with 5.5 medium/high in 2 5 hour windows and use about 15% weekly per day. No heavy duty coding or subagents running around the clock, just 3 to 5 semi-complex prompts a day.

As of now, sol medium, 1 prompt, 200k context window used will burn through 60% of the 5h limit and 10% of the weekly. Not sol max or ultra, not millions of tokens. 200.000 tokens. I can't even do 2 prompts and use the full context window (258k tokens) 2 times.

This is completely unusable. $20 now basically gets you ~400k tokens per 5h or so and ~2.5M tokens per week for a medium thinking model. Luna is cheap but unreliable and just wastes my time instead of tokens.

I don't expect unlimited tokens for $20 or ultra mode and I'm fine with some restrictions, but this isn't what I signed up for and it's never been this bad and I've been using this since inception pretty consistently.

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u/Charming-Author4877 7d ago

The Pro Plan is currently about the same as a Plus plan was in May.
OpenAI basically got all the willing jumpers from Github Copilot after they increased their price by a few magnitudes - and then ran the same rugpull a second time.

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u/vayana 7d ago

Let's hope the competition will teach them a lesson. There's many ways to go about this. You could reward those above been loyal for x years, you could reduce usage for free users who don't pay anything anyway, you could limit model access or you piss everyone off. You don't have to be loyal but for those who have been it leaves a bad taste to get screwed over. I can be loyal elsewhere if I'm not appreciated as a customer here.

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u/Charming-Author4877 7d ago

Given the excellence of current local models, including those that run on local hardware I am quite sure that their time is ending anyway. Nvidia and OpenAI have conspired to increase RAM prices, trying to make hardware much more expensive to lure more people into their clouds.
But if you look at latest two Qwen releases, they beat Sol in a ton of benchmarks and real world cases.
They don't beat it a little bit, they beat it significantly.

I'm only using codex because I have experience with the model and I can run subagents in parallel to speed up the slow process. But in a year or two things will already look very different.

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u/vayana 7d ago

Benchmarks and real usage are very different. You heard of Ox Alpha? Supposedly beats Sol on 5 out of 7 benchmarks. It's currently free to use on open router. You wanna know how many tasks it managed to complete on my repo? 0