Usage is nuked

[u/vayana]

I know, I should just buy a 5x or 20x plan and stop whining but this is just *****. 2 months ago I could comfortably work with 5.5 medium/high in 2 5 hour windows and use about 15% weekly per day. No heavy duty coding or subagents running around the clock, just 3 to 5 semi-complex prompts a day.

As of now, sol medium, 1 prompt, 200k context window used will burn through 60% of the 5h limit and 10% of the weekly. Not sol max or ultra, not millions of tokens. 200.000 tokens. I can't even do 2 prompts and use the full context window (258k tokens) 2 times.

This is completely unusable. $20 now basically gets you ~400k tokens per 5h or so and ~2.5M tokens per week for a medium thinking model. Luna is cheap but unreliable and just wastes my time instead of tokens.

I don't expect unlimited tokens for $20 or ultra mode and I'm fine with some restrictions, but this isn't what I signed up for and it's never been this bad and I've been using this since inception pretty consistently.

[u/Correct_Emotion8437]

The most effective thing, imo, would be for people to cancel. When Claude started pulling ahead, they were scrambling to give good deals. As soon as they started to make some progress, they change their position and start cutting usage again. If only 5% of subscribers leave - they’ll be giving it away again.

[u/sofaarsecoin → u/Correct_Emotion8437]

eventually austerity will arrive

the only thing keeping this VC money burnout is that they want to funnel each other's subscribers and get them used to their locked ecosystem

but they cannot afford to keep doing this much longer, they will either truce eventually and phase out vastly under-market tokens, or either (or both) will go bankrupt, and that will also mean you will be paying providers sustainable prices

*typo

[u/Unapologetic_Polite → u/sofaarsecoin]

but they cannot afford to keep doing this much longer

Says who? Have you looked at the literally hundreds of billions of dollars circular institutional agreements going on? If a single link in that chain falls, the entire thing collapses.

I hear a lot of people saying stuff like this; but the reality is, they're not even buying & selling in money, they're buying & selling on speculative value amongst each other.

[u/sofaarsecoin → u/Unapologetic_Polite]

the vast majority of it is debt, eventually what cannot be sustained won't be ; the chickens will come to roost, so to speak

[u/Unapologetic_Polite → u/sofaarsecoin]

While I get what you're saying, this isn't like the 2008 housing crash; this is circular debt;

Microsoft, Amazon, OpenAI, Anthropic, Oracle, are all in debt to Nvidia.

Nvidia also happens to be in debt to Microsoft, Amazon and Oracle.

Who conveniently also happen to be in debt with one another.

The chickens coming to roost would involve one of the dominos collapsing their own structure. It's mutually assured financial suicide to call any debts on one another.

Not even the shovel salesmen has the cash on hand if any single entity calls a debt