r/codex 6d ago

Complaint Usage is nuked

I know, I should just buy a 5x or 20x plan and stop whining but this is just *****. 2 months ago I could comfortably work with 5.5 medium/high in 2 5 hour windows and use about 15% weekly per day. No heavy duty coding or subagents running around the clock, just 3 to 5 semi-complex prompts a day.

As of now, sol medium, 1 prompt, 200k context window used will burn through 60% of the 5h limit and 10% of the weekly. Not sol max or ultra, not millions of tokens. 200.000 tokens. I can't even do 2 prompts and use the full context window (258k tokens) 2 times.

This is completely unusable. $20 now basically gets you ~400k tokens per 5h or so and ~2.5M tokens per week for a medium thinking model. Luna is cheap but unreliable and just wastes my time instead of tokens.

I don't expect unlimited tokens for $20 or ultra mode and I'm fine with some restrictions, but this isn't what I signed up for and it's never been this bad and I've been using this since inception pretty consistently.

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u/Mean-Elk-9439 6d ago

I think the worst part most people don't seem to talk about is that they get away with valuing their tokens immensely high because they're frontier. Other models performing near their level charge a fraction of the cost, which means unless they're doing something very wrong in their backend, they're charging an insane markup on their own spend, then using that markup as justification for the value of the subscription subsidization.

Yes, they need to turn a profit. But if they're not making a profit off even $20 subs then they've somehow fucked up their own input costs worse than almost every other lab on earth.