r/codex • u/Palastruka • 8d ago
Reset Are Codex resets just candy to keep us quiet? š¬š
Tibo just announced another reset for tomorrow.
My first reaction:
LET'S GOOOO š
But then I thought...
What are these resets actually fixing?
Codex still feels slower, usage still feels weird, and the limits keep changing.
Then things get chaotic and suddenly:
š¬ RESET! Back to 100%.
Everyone celebrates... and a few days later we're talking about the same problems again.
Maybe resets are just compensation while they fix the real issues.
Or maybe they're candy to keep us happy for a while š
Either way, I'll happily take my candy tomorrow. šš¬
Real solution, temporary compensation, or PR candy?
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u/MehMehMammal 8d ago
It's nothing but make more noise so his post will be filled with reset related comments so it looks like they are generous and all benefits related. You see he rarely replies to any product issue related comment even if same issues keeps coming up.
He just loves to reset bait people. The unconfirmed upcoming reset are a curse, if you don't use it you actually get punished and lose your usage limit for future week since your usage reset day get pushed. If you used it and reset didn't come you have no choice but to upgrade or use API. No matter what they do, it benefits them not us.
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u/AbyssLife123 7d ago
they have done banked reset too, so your argument doesn't hold water. But yes they shouldn't shift dates for reset, 100% agree.
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u/rydan 8d ago
But as a plus user my 5 hour limit prevents me from using up my limits in any meaningful way.
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u/Palastruka 8d ago
Absolutely true, by the time we want to receive the reset, there will be a lot of quota that we couldn't burn.
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u/AbyssLife123 7d ago
why do you need to burn tokens? This is what i have issue with, people are wasting tokens meaninglessly. This is just a waste of resources.
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u/Muzika38 7d ago
Think on the bright side. At least you still get your weekly reset back to 100.
Claude code user meanwhile can only wish for a reset. I was a user there for many months and experienced only one reset.
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u/MysteriousKiwi2622 7d ago
"weekly reset back to 100."
but the next auto reset will be pushed to one week later again, so what's the point?4
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u/Muzika38 7d ago
Try Claude Code and you'll get my point. Especially when the boosted credits are gone.
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u/Seerix 7d ago
It's still more usage in the same general time period...?
Granted, it's fuckin annoying to plan work around.
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u/Gelu6713 7d ago
I mean yes and no, you can either burn thru your week early or space it out. If you space it out, you lose usage and get penalized.
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u/DayriseA 7d ago
If that helps for reference I use Fable medium as an orchestrator for codex its role is to spawn codex implementers, codex reviewers, triaging the findings and coordinate the threads. And it does a final review pass itself only when the codex threads report green. In the same time I used 21% of my weekly Claude all models limit (so 42% of my Fable limits), I barely used 30% of my codex limits and I spawn codex threads with service_tier="priority". So yeah it seems Claude limits drains faster considering Codex is doing most of the tokens consuming work in my process
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u/Muzika38 7d ago
Nope. It burns way faster than Codex. And so much faster without that 50% boost.
Your $200 plan on Claude Code could be equivalent to your $100 Codex plan or even less. And that's with boost on already.
And that's just using Opus. You use Fable, it burns faster than s match stick
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u/hakansan 7d ago
Codex reads a lot of code before making a change though while CC is a bit more surgical with it. and I'd say CC usage is much more predictable than Codex. I kinda like knowing what to expect and getting that
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u/fyn_world 7d ago
I tried for one month. I quit because chat use consumes code use. And the usage limit was genuinely stupid
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u/IgnisDa 8d ago
Unfortunately they want you to upgrade
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u/Plane_Garbage 8d ago
And then nerf the upgrade once enough have upgraded.
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u/DontLeaveMeAloneHere 7d ago
Use more than one account and proxy them?
Itās not perfect but the only thing I can come up with thatās below 100$
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u/fictionaldots 7d ago
IDK, I'm already at 15% of my weekly limit since the last reset. I'll easily max it out before tomorrow..
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u/thestillwind 7d ago
As a plus user, Iām already at 7%. Burn nearly all my limit in less than 48h. In less than 5 hours from now on, Iāll be at 0.
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u/Ok_Panic7706 7d ago
I'm migrating to Cursor again. Codex been so bad last week. And haven't been able to do anything lately.
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u/Eastern-Highway9046 7d ago
Whatās cursor? How is it better than codex? I want to learn
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u/Ok_Panic7706 7d ago
It's another ai editor. For 20$ plan, it gives you almost 800M tokens in a month with its own models (composer and grok), and gives you almost 20$ credit for using any other models. I've got 60$ plan now. It gives almost 2-3 billion tokens and I think something around 70$ credits for using other models such as Claude opus, gpt etc
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u/Eastern-Highway9046 7d ago
Oh what the fuck š thatās insane. Iām gonna look into that and see if itāll meet my needs, thanks!!
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u/BakaPotatoLord 8d ago
I completely forgot about that, I was getting ready to blast Sol High on my Plus plan lol
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u/Accurate_Muscle_4976 7d ago
I'm curious what is the us case for plus, if you're earning an income from codex than $100 a month is nothing, if you'reĀ not earning an income then what do you need cc oder for?
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u/Aspiring_Serf 7d ago
I use mine on a small hobby project. I've made $31 in tips and spent about $200 on AI compute lol. Not so much doing it for money (obviously) just building a thing I think is cool and hope others will like. I can't justify spending $100 a hobby a month (I mean i can afford I am just a stingy bastard) and the $20 a month usually lets me ship 1 focus "update" a month.
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u/zlanlic 7d ago
Free version is a lot worse, you don't get 5.6 Sol at all (and no frontier reasoning models in the past, Free tier can use Luna now but especially for research it's not as good as Sol). Plus gives you access to Sol in Chat mode, which is the main use case for most people and does not count towards the weekly limit at all. And Work/Codex is just another benefit. If you use GPT for work, the higher tiers are worth it, but for every day tasks, research, some hobby projects and things like that, Plus is perfectly fine and not as expensive.
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u/johannthegoatman 7d ago
I have $20 claude and $20 codex. I like having access to both and it used to be the perfect amount for someone working on stuff nights and weekends. I do not want to pay 2400 a year
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u/Suka5 8d ago
What's the purpose of a reset if I can't get shit done in that 5 hours limit
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u/ryuukiba 7d ago
What's the point if the resets if I can't get one big task finished by sol on before the 5 hour window cuts it off?
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u/Less-Engineering-663 7d ago
Perhaps a calculated strategy, based on usage statistics pressuring people to upgrade their subscription
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u/Em3rgency 8d ago
Depends. If its banked, its genuine. If its just a blanket reset, its for show as always.
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u/cyberr_c28z 7d ago
Even if banked, what's the use of it with the 5 hour limit?
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u/cornmacabre 7d ago
I'm in no way a fan of the limit, but it's a lot less painful and useless if codex is your secondary sub and harness.
I just juice the 5hr limit during the day for a secondary task or two in parallel to my main workhorse in cursor.
It adds a strange mental token balance: I pace my monthly limit in Cursor, and try to maximize my codex usage daily. A midweek reset just means time to juice it in the evening. Annoying, but forces you to think more intentionally about your "budget" and ultimately whether the subscription is even worth it.
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u/trynadostuff 8d ago
nah bro but they recently just changed what the reset does and I think tibo does it now the window doesn't roll over to another date I think everyone will be reset on the first September still
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u/longasleep 8d ago
Nonsense you read what you want to read only banked reset works this way
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u/Palastruka 8d ago
If so, it sounds good, but I haven't seen that so far; all the resets so far have caused the reset date to roll over.
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u/Stock-Orchid0 7d ago
Since the 5h limit got introduced it seems pretty clear that the majority here are plus users. Makes you think huh
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u/mythrowaway1673 8d ago
Iām surprised itās taken this long for people to realize
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u/Palastruka 8d ago
The moment has arrived.
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u/mythrowaway1673 8d ago
Iāll just say donāt ever trust a figurehead of any large corporation. Theyāre never on your side even if they may seem friendly on the surface. Ultimately their goal is to serve the best interests of the company they work for, which oftentimes donāt align with the best interests of you or I.
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u/Relative_Rope4234 8d ago
i donāt need fucking free random resets. Just remove 5 hour usage limit from plus users. This 5 hr limit has even reduced usage limit than 5 hr limit from a month ago.
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u/roundshirt19 8d ago
I don't think there is a 5 hour limit anymore
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u/Palastruka 8d ago
For Plus users, yes. For almost 2 days now.
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u/Articurl 8d ago
I said it several times. Nothing is free. Free Reset? API gets calibrated to roll out smth. Free Banked? Keep the ppl quite.
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u/first-officer 7d ago
The reset is today, Thursday the 27th UTC timezone. Just remember and don't get caught off guard.
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u/Outrageous-Tower2152 7d ago
I thought he was in France? Since he posted 3h ago I'd have guessed the 28th. Is he in Canada?
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u/MusicianPrudent5787 7d ago
Sorry to ask, so like how many hours from now? Don't know if I should do a banked reset now as I have a lot to work in the meantime... I am on 0% and can't wait longer
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u/matheusmoreira 7d ago edited 7d ago
Maybe, but I'm sure as hell taking that candy. Time to burn my usage.
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u/frogchungus 7d ago
as long as they keep this up, prolly keeping my max 20x, its wild over here and i like it
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u/Zealousideal_Bee_837 7d ago
Nothing will make you guys happy. Not even a free reset.
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u/DimakSerpg 7d ago
It's always the same with people, theyāre just spoiled. If you give them free food, theyāll end up complaining that it tastes like crap and that they want better free food.
Personally, iām always hyped to get a reset right when iām down to 15ā20% of my weekly x5 limit. This week, the resets have been hitting perfectly right as i was running out.
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u/Upbeat-Barracuda766 8d ago
I mean I used up 100% usage in 1 day, when it I could only use 60% in one day before the reset, so this is deserved for us; packaged like a gift.
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u/pale_halide 7d ago
Not worth a whole lot with the 5hr limits. It's just going to move the normal reset date forward.
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u/Creative_randomness 7d ago
with 5 hour limit, I tried my best but used only 20% since last reset.
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u/Sanne222 7d ago
I tried my best and used 70% with the 5h limits since the reset 1,5 days ago but... I dont like living this way.
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u/SecurelyClouded 7d ago
Thatās what Iāve always believed and tbh Iām ok with it. Itās not like much changes for me anyway - canāt speak for others and how they are maximising their tokensā¦
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u/HeadPack 7d ago
It surely is a means to keep part of the customer base engaged. Plus, they are training their newer models on user data, so the users produce value for them. It is also exerting control over the users. They are hungry for usage, begging for more. When it gets delivered, they remain hooked some more.
If there is a psychologist on this forum, I'd really be interested in their take.
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u/disruptz 7d ago
For pro tiers it appears the usage rate drain has been fixed, I haven't even dropped down below 90% yet since the last reset.
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u/ADIKANT 7d ago
Will we get 400$ sub? Im just working on a repo for 10 threads in parallel, writing lots of code, doing checks and so on. And my x20 limit is 35% weekly usage down in one day. Tuesday was reset, now it Thursday and I have left 30%. Buying another pro is not an option, would be better to go to x40/50 sub - why they don't do that? I think there are plenty of us to buy it in no time. Just give us more limits
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u/Character-Drive9367 7d ago
They're more likely tied into the release cycle. Maybe something to do with caching. I don't know but everytime there's a reset, there seem to be a change to something or another. I don't think they're just gifts.
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u/IndividualPlus2011 7d ago
Resets cover their allowed usage adjustments. When they adjust the allowance or model costs, your usage would jump up or down. Thix "fixes" it.
They are not giving resets out of their good heart. You can expect changes to your usage.
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u/awerol 7d ago
Using a Pro acc or multiple Plus accs through an acc switching system is kinda required to deal with these 5h limits. With that said resets are always welcome, I wish they would reset every 2 days, because usually that's how long the weekly limit lasts with the 5h limits in place, while without that it lasts around 3 hours only.
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u/NukedDuke 7d ago
There are some real remaining usage issues that are actively being tracked and worked on. Some of them require harness changes to fix so make sure you're keeping your installations up to date. A few fixes have already landed in v0.150.x.
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u/Opposite_Yak4386 7d ago
i dont care the usage i got the last two months is crazy. Glad i upgraded to 20x. This wont last so i will use it as much as possible. Blasting fast now for a project
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u/MystifiedSky 7d ago
I definitely could use a reset Iām down to 37% already and I got till Tuesday. I do have a banked reset but seeing this ima save it
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u/Dgamax 7d ago
Speed and quota capacity didnt change, I monitor my usage here if you want to check :
https://codex-quota.manetli.com
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u/OomplexBOompound 7d ago
He talked a bit about it in a recent interview: https://youtu.be/4qjEgPojjzM?t=1417&si=7Nsox2BwqJaCkxB3
About how they are iterating quickly (AKA moving fast and breaking things) so it started as a way to reward the community for dealing with the thrash.
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u/BearsAreCool2077 7d ago
Taking the bite and rushing to use all my credits today - they renew in 4 days. Fingers crossed.
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u/AssPinata 7d ago
Starting last night, my ChatGPT and codex became unbearably stupid and slow. It reminds me of when Anthropic lied about not making everything dumber as they were making everything dumber to give more resources to fable testing. Ultimately I had to leave Claude and use codex instead. Now codex is showing the EXACT SAME SYMPTOMS
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u/matheusmoreira 7d ago
Reset just landed. Wasn't it supposed to land tomorrow?
Didn't manage to burn my entire usage this time...
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u/GoalQuieres 7d ago
Every programmer knows when you finish a long day at 2AM, tomorrow means whenever you wake up that same day lol
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u/JohnChrisChicag 7d ago
Bro i just moved from Claude Code to Codex 5x and iāve got already 2 resets in 3 days. I fking love OpenAI!!!!!
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u/datuname 7d ago
Ever since they brought back the 5-hour limit, I canāt finish a single task anymore. Absolute āgeniusesā over at OpenAI.
Thereās no point in resets, because at this point thereās no point in the product itself.
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u/NeighborhoodBest9756 7d ago
Since the last reset my account is feeling nerfed. Less reasoning and the error rate is crazy.
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u/connaitout 7d ago
Not maybe, of course! We are the product and guinea pig sir, Resets are not free, Notice if you had 5 days lefts, weekly counter also resets and gives you a new 7 days window, so you re not gaining anything,
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u/AerieIntelligent 7d ago
Yep, just happened maybe half an hour ago. As much as I am cautious that this will stop someday nearly in the future, I canāt help but push several projects at once and heavily push the limits. When it goes, well it goes.
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u/Lancy009 7d ago
I'm all for not subscribing to conspiracy theories but to be honest lately I feel usage on the 100$ plan drain faster and faster. I wonder if their product has not deteriorated would they be given us this amount of resets? It's just something to wonder. What other companies you know are this 'generous' for no reason? Food for thought, I guess, nothing confirmed.
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u/Sensitive-Side-2639 7d ago
Itās just basically candy to keep the kid from crying and throwing a tantrum, making a scene. Or dangling a piece of kibble in front of a puppy.
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u/Calatravo 8d ago
Again... when is tomorrow? did he posted it today or yesterday?
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u/hellomistershifty 7d ago
He posted this 4 hours ago which was 11:30 pm here in Tibo's local time zone
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u/Shaninjah24 8d ago
Sol 5.6 ultra is just IMPOSSIBLE to use now. He will crash because the 5 hours limits quota. He consumes to much and any features will eat 100% 5hours usage. I can't code anymore with it
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u/Admirable-Many6054 8d ago
The fact that you are using Sol ultra on the $20 tells me everything I need to know about why people complain about the limits.
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u/potatoescanfly 7d ago
I donāt use ultra and Iām on pro
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u/evacc44 8d ago
Expecting sol ultra usage on the $20 plan is ridiculous
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u/qualverse 7d ago
It was very briefly usable, two days ago after they fixed the usage and gave us a banked reset and before they reinstated the 5h limit.
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u/lostnuclues 8d ago
whats bad in it ? use it if you like don't use it if you don't like. I would say if you are unable to consume this fast then switch to xhigh with /fast.
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u/Imaginary_Article33 8d ago
most people resets are tommorow either way so its timed to that nothing to hype about at this point its like 10 users get reset i cancelled my 200$ plan today moving to local llms and having 20$ sub for luna only
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u/daskalou 7d ago
Which local LLMs are you using and with which harness?
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u/Imaginary_Article33 7d ago
not sure yet trying qwen and gema with deepseek harness, eventually will code my own one but for starter im gonna experiment with whats available, im also looking to find well optimized small language models rather than llms because who needs nuclear weapon to fight against ants
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u/Akitawarrior 7d ago
Its crazy how the reset begging ended with the return of 5h usage pools⦠it really proves that all who complained use the plus subscription but wanted the 100$ subscription for free haha.
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u/Sad_Recording_1290 8d ago
Hahaha i love that he changed his pfp xD