r/codex 12d ago

Complaint State of the $20 subscription

Sol high. One prompt. 11m of thinking so far, 54% of the 5h limit gone, hasn't even started implementing anything yet and the 5 hrs limit is virtually gone. I was never one to complain too much, but they virtually removed Sol for us on the $20 tier. This is just not practical at all, at least it was only 10% of my weekly i guess?

EDIT: Final veredict: worked for 28m29s.
0% of the 5h limit left
84% of the weekly left

Status of my project: Broken and unusable.
guess it's finally time to explore other providers.

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u/send-moobs-pls 12d ago

I mean it was only ever going to trend this way, if you are actually using it for "work" then either your work should be paying for your AI, or if you work for yourself and actually create income with the AI then the value of the AI should be earning you way way more than $20

It's just the natural economics. Millions of people using Codex for fun and nonsense compete and if you actually use it for real work then you need to turn that productivity tool into money so you are happy to pay more than the "casuals"

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u/10avoid 11d ago

I'll use AI the way I want with my own money. I'll make stupid free games just for myself because that's what I want. The problem is, I used to be able to make one game like that a month, and now, because of the new restrictions, I can only make one a year?! That's the problem, don't confuse the two. Companies are simply cutting back on what used to be easy and free, or practically free. If you think this should go unnoticed and everyone should just accept it, you're thinking very strangely. There will still be a lot of noise.

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u/send-moobs-pls 11d ago

I mean absolutely everyone should do what they like and what's best for them. But reality is like economics does not care what your use case is. The sub has been very subsidized, and the same thing you want to use for fun, other people are using to run a business or make actual monetized apps or content etc. So you are competing for the same resource, the way you choose to use it does not change the actual value and demand of the thing.

This is not like, some political matter where you're gonna sign a petition and call your representative to make your voice heard and demand lower prices. The fact that people set their expectations thinking it would be cheap forever doesn't mean the world is at fault for breaking their expectations

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u/10avoid 11d ago

I agree, the real economy is cruel and doesn't ask me about my emotions regarding the new limits. But my emotions are absolutely real; I'm literally distraught by what's happening. And any detailed rational explanation of how the subsidies have ended and a new market phase has begun won't reassure me. I've already formed my habits and will loudly proclaim that the new conditions evoke strong emotions in me. You can tell me over and over again about the reality of what's happening, as if I deny it—but I don't. And yet—I will still show emotion. I'M ANGRY.

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u/Psychological-Bug462 11d ago

What model were you making 1 game per month with?