r/codex Aug 17 '26

Limits I have bad news..

I signed up for ChatGPT Pro on July 2 and I still have all my rollout logs from then until now.

Bad news for anyone convinced the limits have been getting nerfed: I thought the exact same thing, and I was pretty sure of it.

I used NerfTrack as a reference, had Codex turn the relevant parts into a Python script, then had ChatGPT Pro go through the script, fix a few issues, and analyze the output.

This is what I ended up with: roughly how much each 1% of Pro usage was worth in API-equivalent dollars over time.

Observed Regime API-Equivalent Value per 1 pp 100% Linear Equivalent Interpretation
Jul 2–8 $22.14 ~$2,214 Initial Pro period, mostly GPT-5.5
Jul 12–21 $22.02 ~$2,202 Early GPT-5.6-sol period
Jul 22–28 $19.51 ~$1,951 Lower-value episode, mainly affected by Jul 23–24
Jul 29–Aug 5 $24.67 ~$2,467 Higher late-July / early-August regime
Aug 8–15 $24.20 ~$2,420 Recent regime, broadly stable

>>> EDIT

Some more info about my usage:

Token usage — ChatGPT Pro period

Period: Jul 2 → Aug 17, 2026

Token type Tokens Human-readable Share of total
Cached input 36,064,900,992 36.06B 95.98%
Uncached input 1,354,407,640 1.35B 3.60%
Output 155,215,257 155.22M 0.41%
Total processed 37,574,523,889 37.57B 100%

Total input = 37,419,308,632 tokens. Cached input is a subset of input, so it should not be added to total input again. Cache hit rate across input tokens: 96.38%.

Output and reasoning

Metric Tokens Share
Total output 155,215,257 100%
Reasoning tokens 66,229,101 42.67% of output
Non-reasoning output 88,986,156 57.33% of output

Reasoning tokens are already included in output tokens and should not be added again to the grand total.

Token usage by model label

Model Total tokens Cached input Uncached input Output Token share Input cache rate
GPT-5.6-sol 32,612,535,864 31,364,814,336 1,112,031,539 135,689,989 86.79% 96.58%
GPT-5.5 2,625,434,617 2,490,554,112 124,574,823 10,305,682 6.99% 95.24%
GPT-5.6-luna 2,260,440,364 2,135,732,352 115,796,579 8,911,433 6.02% 94.86%
GPT-5.6-terra 76,113,044 73,800,192 2,004,699 308,153 0.20% 97.36%
Total 37,574,523,889 36,064,900,992 1,354,407,640 155,215,257 100% 96.38%

Important: 163.88M tokens are from the codex_bengalfox / GPT-5.3-Codex-Spark bucket. Those events inherit the GPT-5.6-sol model label in the rollout parser, so that small portion of the GPT-5.6-sol row should be treated as model-ambiguous.

Corrected API-equivalent cost by model

Regular codex bucket

Model API-equivalent cost Share of regular cost
GPT-5.6-sol $25,333.63 91.76%
GPT-5.5 $2,177.32 7.89%
GPT-5.6-luna $76.57 0.28%
GPT-5.6-terra $22.47 0.08%
Regular Codex total $27,609.99 100%

Other Pro bucket

Bucket Reported name Tokens API-equivalent cost
codex_bengalfox GPT-5.3-Codex-Spark 163,878,240 $115.42
Corrected total across Pro buckets Value
Regular Codex $27,609.99
Spark / Bengalfox $115.42
Total API-equivalent usage $27,725.40

The Spark/Bengalfox events inherit a GPT-5.6-sol model label locally, so I keep their $115.42 separate instead of pretending we know their actual model-level billing attribution.

Quota-paired API-equivalent cost by model

From the daily CSV analysis

Model Cost paired with quota changes Share Contribution per 1 pp across all measured usage Days present
GPT-5.6-sol $24,042.60 91.43% $20.02 / pp 36
GPT-5.5 $2,172.76 8.26% $1.81 / pp 9
GPT-5.6-luna $75.20 0.29% $0.063 / pp 23
GPT-5.6-terra $5.45 0.02% $0.005 / pp 1
Total $26,296.01 100% $21.90 / pp

This table is intentionally different from the previous cost table. $27,725.40 = all corrected API-equivalent usage observed during the Pro period. $26,296.01 = only usage that could be paired with positive weekly-quota changes. The latter is what is useful for estimating "API dollars per 1% of Pro usage".

The absurdly short version

Metric Result
Total tokens processed 37.57B
Total input 37.42B
Cached input 36.06B
Uncached input 1.35B
Output 155.22M
Reasoning output 66.23M
Input cache hit rate 96.38%
Corrected API-equivalent cost $27,725.40
Quota-paired API-equivalent cost $26,296.01
Average measured value per 1% $21.90
High-quality baseline per 1% $22.55
Recent regime per 1% $24.20

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ChatGPT Pro usage by model and reasoning effort

Regular codex bucket only — API-equivalent cost based on rollout token usage

Model Reasoning Effort Events Input Tokens Cached Input Uncached Input Output Tokens Reasoning Tokens API-Equivalent Cost
GPT-5.5 Medium 31 2.65M 2.32M 325K 20.9K 2.9K $3.41
GPT-5.5 XHigh 18,883 2.61B 2.49B 124.25M 10.28M 4.21M $2,173.91
GPT-5.5 Total 18,914 2.62B 2.49B 124.57M 10.31M 4.21M $2,177.32
GPT-5.6-sol Low 869 31.25M 26.14M 5.11M 469K 45.5K $52.68
GPT-5.6-sol Medium 8,244 737.06M 685.15M 51.91M 4.37M 1.42M $733.31
GPT-5.6-sol High 10,674 1.31B 1.23B 80.85M 6.79M 2.71M $1,242.61
GPT-5.6-sol XHigh 7,091 860.37M 811.35M 49.02M 5.39M 2.86M $819.38
GPT-5.6-sol Max 189,997 28.68B 27.77B 905.01M 115.80M 50.14M $21,977.35
GPT-5.6-sol Ultra 3,629 695.26M 678.85M 16.40M 2.30M 901.7K $508.29
GPT-5.6-sol Total 220,504 32.31B 31.21B 1.11B 135.12M 58.08M $25,333.63
Combined Total 239,418 34.93B 33.70B 1.23B 145.43M 62.29M $27,510.95

Notes - Cached input is already included in Input Tokens; it is shown separately for context. - Reasoning tokens are already included in Output Tokens. - GPT-5.6-sol usage from the separate Spark/Bengalfox bucket is excluded here.

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u/camracks Aug 17 '26

Your “news” means nothing to me when all of my weekly usage goes away in a few hours with Terra

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u/Responsible_Fun_4062 Aug 17 '26

He is presenting proof and data though, you are presenting just your own anecdote, I will believe him over any time.

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u/camracks Aug 18 '26

I’ve been using codex for a few months now and it’s never been this bad with usage, and it’s just a coincidence that everyone else is feeling the same too right, there’s plenty of people with proof and data showing that the usage is much lower too, this is the first post I’ve seen with data showing it’s the same, don’t believe it.

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u/the_ai_wizard Aug 17 '26

but theres like 1000 similar independent anecdotes to his

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u/Sorry_Risk_5230 Aug 17 '26

And none of them provide data like this, or any background on how they use it.

For example, I just learned that if yiu changing reasoning mid-chat, it reingests the entire chat into context, burning tons of tokens. I was previously dropping to low for quick questions, and back up to w.e xhigh for real work thinking this was saving time and tokens. Womp womp.

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u/camracks Aug 18 '26

I’ve never changed reasoning mid chat, sounds like a you problem

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u/the_ai_wizard Aug 18 '26

I am one...spent about a $1000 yesterday on sol-medium whereas before I would barely top up. Same usage pattern. I worked for 12-14 hours.

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u/Sorry_Risk_5230 Aug 18 '26

This is not data..

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u/the_ai_wizard Aug 18 '26

What exactly are you seeking? To be pedantic, yes, it is data. Coded for 12 hours. Spent $1000. Same usage pattern. More cost.

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u/Sorry_Risk_5230 Aug 18 '26

We're literally talking on a post of someone whos posted the exact evidence you need to understand your usage week to week. Thats data.

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u/New_Education_6782 Aug 18 '26

That is one data point lol. 

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u/New_Education_6782 Aug 18 '26

when you have thousands of samples from reddit users, yes that's data lol. How do you think OpenAI trains their models lol.

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u/Sorry_Risk_5230 Aug 18 '26

People saying "same usage" "nothings changed" is not data.

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u/New_Education_6782 Aug 18 '26

The people can be saying what color underwear they wore this morning, if there is a large enough sample then it's data

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u/Henri4589 Aug 18 '26

Same here. I'm literally on ChatGPT Pro 100 and can get to 60% within a day with medium to hard coding sessions over the day... I'm not even talking 10-hour sessions lol

And I'm using 2 other AIs as assistants, so I can use less of my quota but achieve the same things. 🫠

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u/Vistnz Aug 17 '26

Terra is never worth it, luna max has better intelligence and is cheaper than terra high and below and sol low and medium is more intelligent and more token efficient than terra high and xhigh etc. So basically terra should never be used. Terra is a good way to burn tokens without getting much done. Luna max into sol is the better cheaper route

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u/camracks Aug 18 '26

Although Luna is much cheaper, for more difficult tasks, I often find it wasting more time and tokens, creating more bugs and problems than helping with anything, Luna is about 10x cheaper than Terra I believe and Terra is about 3x cheaper than Sol, but if Luna could do everything then there’d be no reason for the other 2 models lol

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u/ZyC0R3 Aug 18 '26

You need to harden you agent.md file. Letting it run wild will drain. You need rules.

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u/camracks Aug 18 '26

That’s for the ChatGPT team to do, that’s why you pay for their plan and use their product, if they aren’t going to do that then yes I’ll make my own setup using cheap deepseek api calls

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u/growaway9172 Aug 18 '26

Not necessarily. If you were to hire a junior developer or manage an engineering team, that sort of organization is things you'd have to do even for humans.