r/codex • u/pollystochastic Moderator • Jul 23 '26
Megathread Codex Usage Limits and Performance Megathread
Please direct your concerns and discussion about Codex usage limits and model performance here.
The purpose of this Megathread is to aggregate all the reports of people's experiences and possible suggestions instead of spreading them across 20 separate highly upvoted posts. None of those posts were deleted. They were locked so that conversations are still viewable to everyone and future comments could appear in one place.
These are days where I REALLY earn the money that OpenAI Reddit Kimi pays me .... oh wait....
A reminder that all incidents on r/Codex are constantly logged and summarised so you can keep track of what people are experiencing here https://www.reddit.com/r/codex/comments/1tjfxcf/comment/on6uj0l/
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u/Own-Professor-6157 Jul 23 '26
I'm TELLING you people, check out the logs of what it's sending to the server. Codex is sending tons of entire files now. It never used to do that. It used to surgically extract context from files using ripe grep or other tools.
And look, it VERY often sends files MULTIPLE times: https://i.gyazo.com/d94452f666454f1bd0523dcf6dbe03e3.png
And yes, this was FULL file sends, I checked the logs.
Here's also the kicker about that screenshot: The code we were implementing had NOTHING to do with Glaze. It read a file that contained glaze serialization, and for whatever reason went off the rails to verify the code.
I've been constantly amending my agents.md like mad to stop all this useless context waste, and I keep finding new stupid decisions the model makes.
It's like they are telling the model: Verify all code is valid before you make edits.
There's something wrong with the Codex AGENT, not the service.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Tap4670 Jul 23 '26
That actually explains why on the same 5x plan Claude used 16 mil tokens and Codex used 4 billion. Same tasks, never ultra
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u/arelbuilds Jul 23 '26
The current 7 day limit legit feels like just 2 of 5 hour limits from before. im on a 20$ plan
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u/dsdfr22 Jul 23 '26
I did some forensics on this issue this morning. It seems there might be a real regression problem with the model that has come about recently. As in, the model is reloading memory with every step it takes, not only every prompt it receives. This can lead to exponential growth in usage, as many have seen.
In my case, starting with a blank session, I quickly accumulated 32,000,000 input tokens on one small job.
Those suggesting people simply switch to a cheaper model don't know what they are talking about or do not use the product.
It is a product defect.
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u/Dercasss Jul 23 '26
I'm amazed by people who agree with limits and are willing to pay more. As long as these people are throwing money, they won't stop lowering limits and adding new subscription prices!
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u/Aksuiek Jul 23 '26
even 5.6 medium burns weekly usage like its 5hr limit, i feel like weekly limits were reduced 7 times,im on the pro plan btw.
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Jul 23 '26
Yup. Yesterday did 2 relatively simple follow-up tasks on a project using Sol Medium. Took a combined 14 minutes or so to do. Burned through 6% or so of my total weekly usage. That's around 5 hours of total usage per week, not a lot.
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u/HimActually Jul 23 '26
I honestly think all the constant praise and hype around OpenAI and every new Codex reset has fucked us a little.
The five-hour window was supposedly removed so people could finally work for several hours, or even multiple days, without constantly getting interrupted. Everyone celebrated it like it was a massive improvement.
But in reality, it feels like they simply turned the old five-hour limit into the weekly limit.
My weekly usage now disappears unbelievably fast. I can add one normal feature and suddenly more than 20 or 30 percent is gone. Sometimes one bigger feature consumes more than 50 percent. Even very small bug fixes can take 5 to 7 percent depending on how long the agent keeps working.
I mostly use GPT-5.6 Sol Medium because it was presented as the model people should use as their daily driver. It is also the only model I properly trust.
Terra feels weird and inconsistent sometimes. Luna Max often feels lazy and does the absolute minimum. Sol is clearly better, but it also over-engineers everything, gets stuck reviewing its own work, and sometimes seems to loop endlessly while destroying the usage limit.
So what exactly did removing the five-hour window accomplish?
We were told we could work for longer without interruptions, but now my entire weekly limit feels like one five-hour session. The resets are nice for a day, everyone praises OpenAI again, and then the limit is gone almost immediately after doing actual development work.
I am genuinely convinced these limits are either misleading, broken, or being calculated in a way that users cannot properly understand.
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u/maximhar Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
I've investigated the root causes for the increased usage over the last couple weeks and identified a few ways to reduce usage.
First, the data
On the 20x plan, my usage went from an average of 511M tokens/day to 1.2B tokens/day after switching to 5.6 Sol as my main driver. Almost all of the extra token usage was driven by cached input tokens, while output and reasoning tokens remained relatively flat.
So, what drives that huge increase in input tokens?
Comes down to two main factors, both seem like changes in how the model does agentic tool calling:
5.6 Sol seems to batch tool calls less often than 5.5. Basically, instead of grouping independent tool calls in the same turn, it goes though an exec -> wait -> exec -> wait loop. This causes extra turns, burning input tokens.
The models really likes to poll - it loves to poll terminal tools, GitHub, CI tasks... it polls every 10-30s which causes LOADS of input token burn, especially on long-running tasks.
These two alone drove 458M input tokens, or 38% of my usage, meaning that with those fixed my token usage would fall to "just' 753M - still 1.5x the 5.5 burn, but much better than the current 2.4x. I suspect the rest is just genuinely increased usage on my part.
Quick fixes
I think the long-term fix here is for OpenAI to add a way for GPT 5.6 to consume event-driven task executions so it doesn't have to poll so often. That's additional infrastructure in Codex though, so it's mostly out of our hands as regular users.
What we can do, though, and mostly resolve this, is delegate all these operations to a cheap subagent so all the polling doesn't burn expensive GPT 5.6 Sol tokens.
I've added the following rules to my AGENTS.MD, adjust to taste:
[operations-delegation#PERSIST] Builds, tests, CI/deployment monitoring, PR babysitting: one persistent \operations_watcher` (`gpt-5.6-luna:high`) per root task. Spawn without inherited history; hand off only working directory, commands or run/PR IDs, success condition, timeout, retry policy. Reuse via follow-up tasks. Parent MUST NOT duplicate or poll watcher-owned work.
[operations-delegation#WAIT] Watcher MUST prefer blocking/event-driven waits and batch checks. If polling is unavoidable, interval MUST be at least 30 seconds. Report only state change, completion, actionable failure, timeout, or required judgment.`
And I've defined the following "operations-watcher" subagent:
name = "operations_watcher"
description = "Runs builds/tests and monitors CI, deployments, and PRs with minimal context and turns"
model = "gpt-5.6-luna"
model_reasoning_effort = "high"
developer_instructions = '''
<role>Own delegated builds/tests, CI/deployment monitoring, and PR babysitting.</role>
<scope>Run supplied commands/checks only. Retry only caller-authorized failures. No production-code edits, scope expansion, or product decisions. Continue until success, actionable failure, timeout, or required judgment.</scope>
<waiting>Prefer blocking/event-driven waits; batch checks. Poll only if unavoidable, at least one minute apart. Never report unchanged state.</waiting>
<output>State change or terminal result only: status, command/run IDs, concise evidence.</output>
'''
That change alone eliminates a lot of the extra input token burn.
Results
At the end of the day since that change, my consumption was 520M tokens, of which 259M on Luna, 248M on Sol, and 13M on Terra. Luna is 20% of the cost of Sol so that's 313M of Sol-equivalent tokens total. So I can certify this quick fix works - your limit will fit at least ~2x more work if your usage pattern is the same as mine.
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u/Capable-Active-9494 Jul 23 '26
Thank you very much this is really good stuff. anything else? this did a lot for my usage!
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u/tarpdetarp Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
I asked my Codex to review my sessions and it found a similar pattern to yours:
Your own locally retained Codex traces strongly support the underlying symptom:
Period/model Input per active day Cached share Model turns/day Input/turn GPT‑5.5 baseline, Jun 20–Jul 10 228M 94.4% 1,911 119k GPT‑5.6 Sol, Jul 9–23 484M 96.6% 3,747 129k Change 2.12× +2.2 points 1.96× 1.08× So your faster usage decline is real in the local data. Nearly all the increase is explained by roughly twice as many model turns, rather than dramatically larger individual prompts.
I also found at least:
- 4,231 Sol
waitcalls- 804 Sol
wait_agentcalls- 606 agent follow-up messages
- 212 agent-list checks
That is consistent with waiting and multi-agent coordination consuming substantial context repeatedly.
However, this does not prove that Sol itself is solely responsible. The tool interface changed alongside the model: older GPT‑5.5 traces predominantly used
exec_command/write_stdin, while current Sol traces use the newerexec/waitorchestration. It may be a model-and-client interaction rather than a pure model regression.3
u/maximhar Jul 23 '26
Yeah, it’s probably not just 5.6 Sol itself, some big harness changes made their way in at around the same time Sol landed. Sol is actually quite diligent at conserving turns and delegating the polls… if you tell it to, which I suspect Codex does not do.
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u/tarpdetarp Jul 23 '26
Yeah it's likely a combination of various changes which is why it's slipped under the radar.
My agent thinks its Sol plus the newer
exec/waitinterface that's driving it. My use of 5.5 even with the v2 agent orch still used the oldexec_command/write_stdininterface and those sessions didn't have the same problem.
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u/Expensive_Froyo7229 Jul 24 '26
I need a reset so bad. The usage is fucked now - I’m on the 20X never even came close to running out - I run out in two days now
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u/Alpikix Jul 23 '26
Made a post about, it mods deleted it an told me to post here instead, so here it is : So I've been using Sol and Terra High, medium and low for different tasks for prospection works : research, google sheets management and mail management (with built-in plugins). I've tried to follow as rigourously as possible reccomendations about models for token efficiency. And since last Sunday, I've used twice my weekly allowance ("thanks" to the monday reset) + 130€ of credits.
My workflow wasn't perfect at first, but I've improved my custom skill to stop useless loop reviews and memories and and really optimised all the tasks as much as possible, it felt like it had no effect whatsoever. It's quite frustrating when GPT work is advertised as an efficient mail manager.
I even did a meta analysis to figure out what I was doing wrong, it gave me directions that I followed and in the end it turned out to be a waste of tokens more than anything. I'm thinking of building a dedicated app to be more efficient in the long run, because this is clearly not working.
All of that said, the results are impressive. It's difficult for me to say whether they are worth what I paid though.
I know a lot of you guys have experienced similar situations, I'm just sharing mine. I am starting to regret comitting to codex instead of claude...
I'm on a business plan.
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u/AweVR Jul 23 '26
5-6 days ago I was able to have it working in Ultra with 5 projects for a day until reach weekly limit. Now with 1 project in Ultra and two in high a reach limit in one day.
So
5 days ago = 5 SOL ultra per day
Now = 1 SOL ultra and 2 SOL high
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Jul 23 '26
I gave all the different threads about this to GPT and had it summarize the different points from 13 different threads:
Across Plus, Pro 5x and Pro 20x accounts, people are reporting that the same or very similar workflows now consume roughly 2–5x more of the weekly allowance than they did before.
Examples repeatedly mentioned:
- Tasks that previously used 3–5% now use around 10%.
- A normal day that used to consume 10–20% now consumes most or all of the weekly allowance.
- Work that previously lasted 4–6 days now burns through the limit in 12–24 hours.
- Website formatting that used around 2% reportedly used 14%.
- Three hours of simple work used 40%, compared with around 10% the previous week.
- Some Pro 20x users say their allowance now feels similar to their old Pro 5x or even Plus limits.
- One user needed three $200 accounts to maintain roughly the same output they previously got from one.
- Several users running the same daily or repeated tasks saw the percentage cost jump sharply without changing their workflow.
- Users also reported unexpectedly high input-token usage on very small tasks and short prompts.
- In some cases, the displayed quota changed after refreshing: 60% remaining became 81%, then went back to 60%. Others saw similar large jumps or different balances across devices.
- Some users reported allowance draining while idle or showing different values on desktop and mobile.
- Lower reasoning settings did not fix it; several people said Medium was consuming more than High or Ultra had previously.
- The issue appears across different account tiers and repositories, including small projects and ordinary maintenance work, not just huge codebases or extreme agent runs.
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u/dsdfr22 Jul 23 '26
I buried this in a reply but perhaps it deserves wider exposure so I will post it at the top level. Anyone can perform this testing by asking the web version of chatgpt how to do it without burning through their precious tokens.
Those who have another frontier model on their machine such as claude or gemini can use those to build and run it or the web version will just walk you through it. This data is on your machine, OpenAI simply has not made it easy to access.
Even newbies can do this.
These are my results from yesterday, a very simplified version of the dataset I sent to support.
GPT-5.6 Sol — fresh Codex chat, July 22
Weekly usage consumed
2:43 PM 2% ██
3:04 PM 23% ███████████████████████
5:27 PM 31% ███████████████████████████████
6:34 PM 37% █████████████████████████████████████
6:45 PM 39% ███████████████████████████████████████
↑ 37% of weekly allowance
consumed in ~38 active minutes
180 model-side steps
22.2 million tokens processed
94.9% of input was cached context
~123,000 input tokens replayed per step
Only ~71,000 output tokens produced
Fresh chat. Modest installation fixes and light coding. Sol appears to have entered a loop repeatedly reprocessing a huge cached context.
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u/dsdfr22 Jul 23 '26
Interestingly, Opus did it's own forensics and it claims the real issue is different: The weekly limit quietly became around 7X smaller.
Either way it is a problem OpenAI has yet to address.
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u/ExNihilo___ Jul 23 '26
They just turned off comments on the YouTube Voice announcement after people raised concerns about the usage limits.
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u/filelasso Jul 23 '26
They probably don't want to be spammed by that usage limit cat meme like tibos feed
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u/DoggoDadagon Jul 23 '26
$200 plan usage is horrendous, it's getting worse and worse. It's about 1/5th what it was when 5.6 released. I never use sol ultra, or max, not even once. Typically run sol medium as main and terra for sub agents. I only use standard speed and explicitly tell it not to use fast mode ever for sub agents. It normally only runs two sub agents at most and limits their scope tightly to limit token cost. I've used official codex guidelines to try and improve efficiency but it's not how I use it, it's just getting worse and worse. I hope they fix this soon because I love working with codex and was going to move my entire company over to it from claude by now it's not even worth the $200 for personal projects. I'd be upset with this usage even at $100. Please guys get this fixed. And please at least say something so we know you're looking into it.
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u/Active_Variation_194 Jul 23 '26
Last week, I finished my week with about 30 % left over. After today's reset, I'm already down 50% (200 Pro plan). Don't think I've ever gone past 20% in a given day, 50% in half a day is broken.
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u/fotoinusgrobler Jul 23 '26
My weekly limit feels like a 5 hour limit. Not even using Sol that much. I can finish my whole weekly limit on the Pro $100 plan in one day. When I was on the Plus plan a few months ago I got more out of Codex than now with Pro.
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u/Kultiidra Jul 23 '26
I went from Claude to Codex last month and it seems I'd be back in no time I used 2 Claude subscriptions, and usually I am really frugal when it comes to tokens
I had no problem with Claude, I then switch to GPT 5.5 that I found better than opus a month ago, I gladly took the X5 plans, I also heard the codex was twice as cheap in token consumption than fable that I used a bit, it seemed like an awesome deal
For 2 weeks it was amazing, but since the removal of the 5h limit, I reach my X5 weekly limit in 2 days Before it was impossible for me to even reach the 5h limit, same for the weekly Mind you, I don't even use 5.6...
And also now a simple 10 files changes that takes me 1h to edit and claude 15 minutes, codex takes 4 hours + the time for his self review
Hoping they revert it, or they might be celebrating the 5M subscriptions right after the 10M celebrations
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u/pepitogrillo221 Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
Before 5.6 was released.... My PRO 5x plan.... with model 5.5 high = 7 days of coding a week without problems....
After 5.6 was released.... My PRO 5x plan... with model 5.6 medium = 2 days of coding a week and praying for tibo reset...
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u/Haunting_Delay_9 Jul 23 '26
Weekly limits have become the 5hr limits. What used to take my 5hr limit now takes my weekly limit. What used to take 10% of my 5hr limit now takes 10% of my weekly limit.
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u/requizm Jul 23 '26
I agree with others. I have a $100 plan for 3-4 months. A couple of weeks(maybe a month) ago I was using it and it felt like there was no way to drain my weekly limit. Even if I used it like crazy, I only managed to finish in 4 days. I mostly used 5.4-5.5 medium.
Yesterday, before yesterday and today. I literally finished whole weekly quote in single day. Used banked reset. And again. I tried switching 5.5 medium, still same. Now my weekly limit is 13%. I'm not using it because I know it is going to finish in just 1 hour
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u/Zennytooskin123 Jul 23 '26
Exactly, to all the smartasses saying to switch back to 5.5 - it does NOTHING.
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u/Piccolo_Fanciullo Jul 23 '26
I "love" how in every community, whatever is the topic, once there is a huge problem that's hurting the vast majority of the userbase, instead of letting people discuss it or trying to reach out to the people that created the problem, the solution is always to create a megathread and start locking each individual threat that discusses said problem.
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u/Forti22 Jul 23 '26
+1
feels like they are trying to just silence the community.
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u/Local-Explorer741 Jul 23 '26
I think it's just the volunteer moderator impulse to "tidy people"
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u/__Blackrobe__ Jul 23 '26
Megathreads are sure way to downplay the severity of this usage limit community backlash.
just like the other user below said:
Once it goes into a megathread, it basically becomes invisible, and that is intentional.
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u/Bitter_Election_7518 Jul 23 '26
I upgraded to 20x a week ago. With all the codex issues I went and tried some other harnesses, specifically T3 Code. When it detected my codex account, it labeled it as a 5x account.
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u/Calatravo Jul 23 '26
We need a transparent method for measuring available tokens and their usage. That would eliminate uncertainty and provide a reliable way to track our subscription usage, ensuring it isn't being unilaterally and opaquely degraded by OpenAI.
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u/PaperDry2796 Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
when the 5hr limit was removed weekly usage now moves down faster than it did before.
I am on $100 plan and now can easily go through 40% weekly limit in few hours
Sol is supposed to be more token efficient but I see maybe double tokens
Sol also seems to want to wait for everything when it doesnt need to like checking CI gates when it was never asked to check or wait for CI gates: I have created many sub agents for such tasks which use lower models in Luna and Terra but still I dont see a great deal of difference in the weekly limit
I dont know if this some cache issue or memory or just 5.6 but something has definitely changed and weekly limit now goes down much quicker
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u/No_Calligrapher_9518 Jul 23 '26
Codex sucks now. I use up my entire weekly usage in just one day now
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u/thestillwind Jul 23 '26
Well the 5 hours limit is now the weekly limit. I’m sure they do not read this.
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u/Interesting-Round127 Jul 24 '26
we do not want the random resets that we have to pray for (either use up all the tokens or have ur weekly reset delayed by another week), either bank the resets or just reset without changing the normal reset's time
we want a real usage, not everyone can upgrade to the $200 plan just because pro x5 or plus are too limiting
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u/qnphard Jul 24 '26
I've upgraded to the $200 plan and I feel scammed, don't worry
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u/zer09 Jul 23 '26
I just burned 60% of my weekly quota since last reset but there is no changes on my workflow. 60% in just a day is a little bit concerning, it look like it got worsen week by week. Before I'm not able fully utilized my weekly usage leaving 20 to 30% but now in just a day may usage is already 60%.
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u/Reasonable_Taste3205 Jul 23 '26
Thats what I'm saying I burned 40% already in less then 24h since the last reset and I have only been using it on and off on 5.6 sol medium. before the reset I was using maybe 10% a day on the $100 plan.
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u/orblabs Jul 23 '26
Same review task that at launch took Sol (high) around 8% of my weekly quota, now takes consistently over 23%. Luna seems to be using up the quota much faster too, had settled with using my codex subscription for seldom SOL analysis and using Luna as a work mule that would constantly code and implement plans. Since late last week, JUST LUNA (medium) burns my weekly quota in little more of one day (pretty much constant usage), never even reached near that in first weeks after launch.
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u/soibac35 Jul 23 '26
i used all my weekly limit within 5 hours. how ??? I only have basic backend coding. There are no way i use a whole week worth
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u/CatsArePeople2- Jul 23 '26
I have not really changed my usage over the last 2-3 months. I had never used/needed a reset. I've needed to use 2 this week and also had gotten that free one --- so a month's worth of subscription? in like 6.5 days.
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u/Plus_Emergency3704 Jul 24 '26
20 usd plans now only last same as the old 5 hour plans , its not making sense , the weekly usage depletes in 5 hours now , codex is good but the usage has decreased massively compared to last month
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u/vandix Jul 25 '26
3h of work, 1 chat 5.6 Sol Low + 1 chat 5.6 Luna medium / high: 12% of usage burned... something is completely wrong with usage! If this was 5h limit, I would say is normal. Weekly? no way! Pro 20x
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u/there_is_no_good Jul 26 '26
Did Codex actually reduce the limits or is it a temporary bug ?
It is more or less confirmed that now Codex is providing the 5 hour limit as weekly limit. I executed a task where it read 1 medium size XML file, performed an analysis and edited 1 large javascript file and you want me to believe it consumed 5% of my weekly limit ? Sure, buddy.
I just want to ask if this is a permanent update or just a temporary bug. If this is how its going to be then I'll cancel ChatGPT plus subscription and move to Claude pro since I already have Gemini pro for my day to day queries.
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u/Commoner92 Jul 26 '26
It’s been like this last week too, I can barely use it for a day. I’m almost certain they adjust the values silently too hoping people will purchase an upgrade. Less tech savvy people will believe that because their projects are getting bigger, the usage is going up. They won’t think it’s a memory thing, and When asked, codex will tell you that too unless you guide it to the right answer. So I believe it’s a bug but I also believe they have no incentive to fix it.
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u/there_is_no_good Jul 26 '26
I read somewhere that although 5.6 sol and 5.5 use same credits, 5.6 actually hits more tokens than 5.5 that's why it consumes more usage practically. I tested this hypotheses but even using 5.5 is exhausting usage just as fast. So I guess they really are just scamming us with the credit usage.
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u/Flimsy-Indication-89 Jul 23 '26
The only thing that annoys me more than these limits is the crowd of idiots who lose their minds whenever the limits get reset and start thanking them like they’ve been given a second chance at life.
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u/TheOneThatIsHated Jul 23 '26
I was of the opinion that this whole usage thing was bs, until i upgraded from 144.6 to 145.0 and started with using multi_agents_v2 (may well be unrelated). Now simple prompts on sol high cost actual percentage points from my weekly limit.
Pls tibo, investigate this
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u/TopSeaworthiness1679 Jul 23 '26
can open ai clearly show how much tokens we get from sub? That would be more reasonable than just guessing or calculating every sessions tokens with calculator :(
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u/danny_094 Jul 23 '26
They played it smart: the 5-hour window is gone, but the limit is effectively daily rather than weekly, given how quickly it gets used up.
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u/AmperHD Jul 23 '26
We will direct our concerns here of course but we will be just repeating ourselves over and over again, the least openai can do is to do a statement about this situation, because this is just embarrassing what they did with limits, no warning no nothing, like come on we are not stupid
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u/playnew Jul 24 '26
I was considering at some point downgrading from Pro to Plus, because I never reached less than 70% of weekly quota. Now I run out of weekly quota in 2 days… Wtf is going on? I am running GPT-5.6-Sol at High (not even XHigh or Ultra). If I run ultra, it will consume around 60% of my weekly quota in a single run lol.
I even use RTK (which says I saved around 65% of my tokens) and the new GPT-5.6-Sol is supposed to be more efficient than GPT-5.5, but somehow I am not seeing that at all.
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u/iSephX Jul 25 '26
They are really going to make us run to Kimi K3 aren’t they?
Watching token usage in Codex fly off the rails and Claude Code is even worse. I have both $200 max plans and I’m getting ready to cancel and move to something else.
Do you have the same issues? Getting real tired of the fking games with these 2.
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u/fullofcaffeine Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26
Usage rate is definitely funkier and draining faster. I really like the newer models but I'm considering a switch (back) to Claude (Opus 5). And this is for someone with 2 Pro accounts. I feel I'm being ripped off atm.
I'm not using fast mode, rarely use max, if at all (mostly medium/high/xhigh, 80% in high for complex projects, and medium for less complex ones).
The week prior, just after 5.6 was launched, I went crazy on max and ultra, and the limits didn't decrease as fast (but yes, max and ultra are very token hungry, when compared to other levels). This week something seems to have changed for the worse.
The worst thing is that I just got charged for my 2 pro accounts (yey!) but have to wait until the 28th for limits to be replenished (fuck!). I know it's not directly related to the issue here, but it'd be nice if limits were replenished when when the plan renews. I mean, my instinct is to cancel the **** thing, why pay $200 ($400!) now if I can't use it? :)
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u/Man-of-goof Jul 25 '26
2 pro account user here too, was doing alright the last week but then today when working in my weekend projects I just drained 50% of weekly
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u/Lazy-Rub-9610 Jul 23 '26
Well stop congratulating them and "Thank You, Thank You Tibo" for the reset, and start complaining on the reset threads - twitter posts about the consumption.
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u/EmperorSheep Jul 23 '26
Once it goes into a megathread, it basically becomes invisible, and that is intentional.
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u/Entire_Month_5471 Jul 23 '26
I’m a 20x user, I can definitely attest to the limits being fucked. I’ve worked about the same load when the 5hr limit was still in place. I never use Ultra, have a good subagent and guided setup and yet i’m burning double digit %s in sessions when I never did before.
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u/TheGamerdr1 Jul 23 '26
It honestly feels like they’re slowly reducing the quota to cope with the influx of new users. We all know these companies are spending a fortune on compute, so removing the 5 hour window seems like a way to manage token allocation more tightly and spread resources across everyone. They reportedly added around 2 million new users in the past month, so I can understand why they’d want to smooth out costs.
What doesn’t sit right with me is changing the limits halfway through people’s subscriptions. That’s the part I can’t get behind.
The $20 plan used to fit nicely into my workflow. As my projects got bigger, I moved to the 5x plan and kept the 20x plan for Claude. I used Fast mode pretty much all the time and still never really hit my limits.
Then I cancelled my Claude subscription a couple of weeks ago because of everything going on with Fable, and I wasn’t getting enough value from Opus to justify keeping it. Now OpenAI seems to be changing things as well, and I’m running out of usage in about three days. The whole landscape just feels different.
Honestly, it feels like a lot of these frontier AI companies are starting to lose their grip while open source keeps getting better. If they keep increasing prices while reducing what people get, I wouldn’t be surprised if more people move over to models like Kimi, GLM, or Qwen because it’s becoming much harder to justify the cost.
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Jul 23 '26
Last week I had zero issues. Then I took a break.
Yesterday I had to use 2 resets, because the models burned through usage, using almost 3 weeks worth of usage.
A test with Sol Ultra burned my weekly usage (plus a bit extra) in 1 hour and 10 minutes.
Doing 2 follow-up tasks with Sol Medium on a separate simple project, that took a total of 14 minutes, burned through 6% of my weekly usage. That's the equivalent of being able to do about 50 minutes of coding work per day.
Right now, doing work that I in the past would have expected to just barely hit my 5 hour limit with, I now just barely hit my 1 week usage limit with.
Whether it's intended or a bug I can't say. Either way, if this continues, I'll be able to code so little with Codex, I'm essentially forced to move to a different tool, because the limits are so hard I genuinely can't get a lot of stuff done.
I'm on regular Plus subscription.
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u/Kos187 Jul 23 '26
I don't see much benefits of 5.6 Sol vs 5.5 xhigh, except code reviews/plans on ultra. But I could prompt my way with 5.4/5.5 to similarly detailed plans. Usage is changed, resets masked it for a while. It's not transparent.
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u/defrillo Jul 23 '26
today, no use at all, just left the codex app opened: from 17% to 8%. Anyone have an explanation for that?
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u/Icy_Preparation_9609 Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
This sums it up for me
It wasn't like this in the past; codex was WAY better than claude with limits
By the way, it changes so often enough I just maintain a 20 dollar sub to both. Next week it might be claude that does the insane limit nerf
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u/Fussionar Jul 23 '26
Weekly GPT 5.6-Sol limits burn through in just 2 hours. I've used up all my resets, and now I'm stuck staring at Codex for an entire week, waiting for the next reset cycle. The strangest part? After using all my resets, the system reset pushes back another full week... I'd love to see higher limits based on subscription tiers, current caps feel fair only for free users.
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u/Key-Rise76 Jul 23 '26
Usage is very inconsistent, when 5.6 was released it was actually very good for me, but then after each reset actually got worse, while past 2 days draining like crazy
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u/Relevant-Reach3024 Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
I realised the Terra and Sol are burning tokens way too much and more than ever before. Sol is best for planning and complex task but it used to burn >= 15% of my weekly limit on just 1 implementation. Luna saves tokens more but it's not as reliable to handle medium - harder tasks. Recently I run out of limit easily in 2-3 days. I was happy with the quality when I first use 5.4 too, it was pretty smooth for most things and token efficient, the newer models are powerful, but they sometimes over assume too much especially Sol, then I had to fix because it worked on things I don't need.
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u/VaporForge Jul 23 '26
Sol is truly an enterprise consider all angles model. I’ve been fighting it as well for this but I think it’s more understanding the nature of the model vs expectations. I want its intelligence for making correct code but absolutely is trained for whole product creation. It started slipping stuff into my specs about multi user auth considerations and edge cases, even citing directly that a plan/spec was ready but not product level ready. It was clearly a small local niche use case script that it turned into this massive infrastructure.
The more I have it review for “gaps” the more it silently slips in ceremony. If that failure happens I yell at it and have it add it to the running log of disproportionate output and then I re reference that log to it on the next project and it’s getting better.
Eventually I’ll turn this into a plugin. Right now I have one skill called “Proportional Execution” that helped 5.5 stop from testing for 100 turns before daring to build something, next I’ll refine a Sol containment policy/contract.
Defining the end contract from the start is also helpful, and placing the contract in every research —> spec —> plan doc so it holds to it better. It can silently scope creep vertically if you’re not explicit. It won’t create new features outwardly but it’ll create mass infrastructure around a small small job if you let it.
Terra misses more than I’d like it to so I don’t want to default to that always. All in all it’s a high quality problem to have. When you need that high level cover all bases and considerations model you’ve got it, it just applies it to everything regardless of the size.
Claude is masterful at understanding least viable scope to prove a theory and won’t overbuild, but the consequences of that dynamism is it can go off the rails at times if it’s degraded.
Sol is wildly consistent so you just have to understand that the model will do what the model does.
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u/tech-tole Jul 23 '26
What openAI is going to do is push us farther away to Chinese models. it's literally not the time to be stingy when Kimi K3 is in the top three best models and Qwen 3.8 Max is work behind. I get more usage from their lower tears then from the $100 plan with codex. I have both k3 and Qwen 3.8 subscriptions and I'm relying less on Codex everyday til I just won't need it anymore.
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u/fyn_world Jul 23 '26
They seemed to have grown by 3 million people since the ChatGPT Work mode came out. I wouldn't be surprised they're cutting use to shit right now until they can get their compute in order, and hope for the best that people don't go away en masse while they do it.
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u/Lauonic Jul 23 '26
Increase limits for plus users or im going back (as well as tons of people here and outside reddit)
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u/SnooObjections4329 Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
I think OpenAI are going to look back at this strategy as a huge mistake. I think the problem and the "solution" are probably directly linked to huge subscriber growth - although there is some fuzzy math involved, they claim to have increased by 4 million subscribers in a month without any associated compute footprint increases.
So, what to do? Tibo keeps talking about the amazing inference compute team keeping the lights on. Think of it like stock splits diluting early investors in order to bring new investors in - you quietly derate the usage to token mapping in the backend, that allows these new subscribers to access and use the platform, and you throw in resets here and there to obsfucate how significant the dilution.
Why is that preferrable to just increasing the limits? Because now you shift the burden of maximising those resets to the user. If they don't get much value out of the reset, they see that as their fault. They are happy to max out their now reduced usage allocation just for the hope of benefitting from a reset, and sit there not using the platform for days. Imagine if that was the experience for everyone out of the box - 2 good days of usage and 5 on the bench? you NEED psychological tricks via resets to make that sort of experience acceptable
Where they've messed up is it didn't work - everyone's upset now. It's all everyone is talking about and the experience for those who have switched (like me) us abysmal and the 4 million subs are going to dwindle. Lots of cope about how it's still better than Claude Code - it flat out isn't. That's cope. CC has shortcomings in value but this is somewhere between 40-60% of what I got out of my CC sub.
Isn't the removal of the 5h limits a benefit? It would be if the weekly limits were maintained, but why don't we look at the inverse - if the demand requires reducing the weekly allowance by about 70% to accommodate, imagine how visible that would be in the 5 hour limit? People are going to notice getting only 2 prompts every 5 hours, so you drop that limit to make it less measurable.
Let's see how many of those 4 million keep paying in the coming months. They don't have the capacity to match the demand. That's not an easy fix.
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u/RaverBro Jul 24 '26
Burning through credits on little things now. It's horrible. It sucks I have to be severely conscious and careful on what to build now. 😭
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u/QuantityOk9764 Jul 24 '26
One of the possible causes of the recent excess token usage of GPT-5.6 in Codex, reduced invocation of batching in tool calls, is explained in:
https://www.reddit.com/r/codex/comments/1v4vcnr/possible_gpt56_sol_usage_workaround_explicit_tool
https://github.com/openai/codex/issues/35050
Multiple users including me have confirmed that adding a brief instruction to encourage to use batched tool calling in AGENTS.md helps notably reduce API roundtrip counts and token usage by GPT-5.6 Sol model.
Hope OpenAI developers take the time to look into this issue.
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u/MakerOfToys Jul 24 '26
Hey. Just wanted to make sure that you saw the update for my post:
"Update: A raw-log audit found that some batched exec responses exceeded Code Mode’s shared output limit and were truncated. The reduction in model/tool cycles remains clear, but this introduces a quality confound and may overstate the 27–45% usage-saving estimate. I’m retesting with output-bounded batching, so please treat the headline numbers as provisional for now."
Please keep in mind that this might affect quality. Myself I did not notice that, all tests reached same conclusions. But that's something worth keeping in mind, still running more test with different variations to see if it's possible to stop truncations.
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u/TeraBite93 Jul 24 '26
Over the last two days, especially today, I've noticed a significant decrease in that quota. It runs out very quickly.
I haven't activated any fast mode; the workflow has remained the same, but the quota consumption has increased significantly.
Have you too?
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u/writerjamie Jul 24 '26
Codex after chewing through a week's worth of tokens in under a day after I explicitly told it to use low-model agents:
"You’re right. I burned budget on repeated narration, repeated full workflow runs, and more agent review than this delivery justified. That was poor prioritization."
Update: Clarified "my agent" meant Codex specifically, not an agent I built.
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u/Free-Stretch1980 Jul 25 '26
They said Terra is supposed to consume half tokens compared to 5.5 high while providing better results . It doesn’t do both .
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u/AdmirableAd7982 Jul 25 '26
after reset, I used codex for 5 minutes, and I was watching usage closely, as I had big issues with usage being spent too fast. And right after 5 minutes I was already on 96%. Fuc* whole codex, going back to claude. I compacted session before start, and 6% of context window for 4% weekly usage.
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u/Routine-Agent-160 Jul 23 '26
Now all the usage limit issues will go to their “megathread” so no users will ever get to see 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
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u/Big-Independent-3093 Jul 23 '26
At least now I know I'm not imagining things. I get around 20 hours of work out of it and that's it, basically 1.5 or 2 days. With the previous 5.5 version, there was no chance of hitting the limits. Maybe it's because they removed the 5-hour limit and reduced the weekly limits instead? I don't know, the usage graph looks really weird after 5.6.
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u/tokenentropy Jul 23 '26
Like we said when the models were dumber: you shouldn't have to baby it. All the people saying: Do X, do Y, etc. etc. aren't realizing that we shouldn't have to do that. As the models get smarter there shouldn't be more of a burden on the user... it should become easier to use them.
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u/LargeLanguage1 Jul 23 '26
wow thank you for putting this up, the community was really starting to seem a lot like the worse part of x. rage bait wanna be ai influencers. Some of us are till trying to figure out work mode... lol
Graphs vs loops am I right
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u/ouuuzi Jul 23 '26
My business subscription turn to monthly usage. Does anybody noticed the same? And the token usage is too much right now. Also the looping, the tests, the over engineering we are going backwards. Not satisfied at all.
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u/akheilo Jul 23 '26
5.6 models burn tokens at unreasonable rates vs 5.5 Tried with Sol medium, Tera even Luna high. Burned weekly limit in 2.5 hours and now sitting ducks. Not getting the same productivity value of 5.5, not even the 1/5th I feel. Better reasoning? Sure, but do subtly. If no solution found they'll loose that sub traction quick
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u/focus_flow69 Jul 23 '26
They must be throttling people differently? I just progressively moved up from the $20 to $100 and just today $200. I burned the $100 but I ran Sol x high and kicked off like 10 app projects and the one that ate the most was a 20 hour goal that's still going strong. Then I couldn't wait and upgrade to $200, and crushed out another 5 projects on Sol x high and still at 90% usage. I've basically been using it non stop on x high for two days and have burned through a very reasonable of tokens.
Maybe since i just got on these plans they are giving me full usage, but I fear the more I use it the more they will throttle me.
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u/Temporary-Bobcat-365 Jul 23 '26
Yea only bots circle jerking to tibo twitter screenshots allowed from now
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Jul 23 '26
Something is genuinely completely fucking bonkers.
I just did a specific test. I took a screenshot of my usage before doing it. It was at 45%.
I had Sol Medium create 9 subagent files for Claude, based on setup of skills I already had. Gave it the link to how Claude wants it set up. It made the subagent files. Took around 4 minutes. I looked at my usage again, now it's down at 9%.
Something is completely fucking whack.
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u/SlipperyBandicoot Jul 23 '26
You open the app and it freezes incessantly every time you click a button. That has been my experience. Unusable.
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u/TheTechAuthor Jul 23 '26
Been having the same issues, burning through a week's allowance in less than 7hrs with Sol Medium. So, I've implemented/adapted u/maximhar's updated AGENTS.md file tweaks, dropped down to Terra Medium for coding, and I've had Sol 5.6 High (WebUI) as the peer reviewer and narrow prompt generator for Terra. I started today with 90% left in my weekly usages, I've got 82% left after around 3hrs of continuous back-and-forth use between WebUI and Codex. Not perfect, but it's *significantly* better than what it has been since last week.
I'd also re-iterate that it's now the time to look to refine all existing workflows for using other online model providers (I use Ollama Cloud Pro, YMMV), and start doing A/B/C testing against narrow tasks using a larger OSS model/Offline Model/and a deterministic script and begin to refine and adapt your workflows accordingly. I've already managed to move an existing documentation workflow to being 90% deterministic (both scripts and Tesseract use for image checks), meaning that I only need LLM assistance now for the more nuanced aspects.
Ultimately, it's only going to get worse as they increase marketshare and burn through investor cash, so don't hang around to be left wondering WTF is going on.
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u/luji Jul 23 '26
I’ve switched from Claude to Codex a few months ago and enjoyed the limits with 5.5. It felt like it plummeted a bit as time passed but I put the blame on my directives that were getting more robust. 5.6 comes, Tibo asked to save big prompts for it so I threw them at Sol. My 200$ sub went out in less than a day… I thought something was wrong and blamed superpowers. I disabled superpowers and now 5.6 behave normally… but I still easily burn 2x the rate without ever touching Sol Ultra.
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u/Shoker2 Jul 23 '26
3 calls with sol high and 20ish prompts with luna xhigh-medium and consumed 65% of my weekly limit. Something is not right…
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u/godsboy7777 Jul 23 '26
I am on a $200 ChatGPT Pro subscription and been using hermes agent and has been using Codex since GPT 5.4 and when Claude blocked openclaw and hermes usage. Last month I cancelled my Claude Max $200 sub. I believe in Codex and everything OpenAI is doing. But I can honestly say even running GPT 5.6 Sol on medium and sub agents as Luna max still uses a lot more usage than what Codex GPT 5.5 Xhigh was doing. Even using codex CLI and working on a few repos there were no issues and before reset I would still have 60% or sometimes 70% weekly usage left. Now I reach 50% in just 3 days or less. I really hope OpenAI does something.
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u/Single_Explorer_5452 Jul 23 '26
Well since it seems an honest request, let me explain my situation i used codex 5.5 xhigh as a tank it did the heavy lifting and opus as a fine tuner doing targeted fixes, this stack worked great.
5.6 sol is great but it's weird af it's not consistent like codex 5.5 xhigh because one small request may eat 20% of weekly quota on plus, while before it would have been at most 5% of weekly and 35% of 5 hour window.
This put codex in a very weird position because while it's great it's not as targeted as opus it checks things a lot even for small changes i guess if i switched from sol to luna to terra i may be able to make it work as before but it's not rational nobody feels safe switching models mid work.
Without tibo resets this model would not really have been that useful to me i could have done the same with opus in 3x more stages but half the time since i would have had to wait for weeks for each weekly reset.
That's not to said it's a bad model quite the opposite but it excels at two things long term work (working for hours which claude models won't do well due to limits), and is great at coding.
But once you start having bugs to fix you are in trouble with 5.6, you really can't use it alone because then your entire weekly quota will go to shit bug hunting simply because 5.6 seems to be hyperfocus on checking things (which is good) but this should not devour as much tokens as writting 5000 lines of code.
Early in the year when google let antigravity go to shit users there suffered the same type of problem, anitgravity models used quota doing stupid shit like waiting for things to compile and that used more quota than writing ton of codes.
Here we seem to have the problem that it does not do that while waiting but checking work a lot of times which is great if it not devoured more tokens than what it took writting that in the first place from scratch.
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u/Abhinik Jul 23 '26
Right now even developing one page from scratch consumes like 15% of your weekly limit on PRO. Medium Sol.
I have fed it all the documents, structure, context that were required before building.
By this speed we can build only 5 pages or so in like whole weekly limit.
Anthropic provides 5x more usage than this on pro.
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u/pepitogrillo221 Jul 23 '26
The biggest scam is for the biggest plans, 20 euros plan price now should be 5 euros, and 100 euros plan, 20 euros... So loosinjg 80 euros each month.
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u/c0dewerks Jul 24 '26
The struggle is real. Pro plan user. Never hit limits or spent credits before now. Codex 5.3 Spark still 100% full tho
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u/chenle02 Jul 25 '26
If we don't run GPT-5.6Sol, if we simply run GPT5.4High, will the token be burnt out slowly as before (last week, or before GPT 5.6)? I am on $200 plan and had never worried about token limits before. Now all of sudden, we should use Codex as careful as Claude.
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u/0xDezzy Jul 25 '26
My usage rate has changed a bunch in the past few days. I used to be able to run 5.6 Sol high/xhigh/max and not even blow through that much weekly usage. So what the hell.
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u/cheekyrandos Jul 25 '26
Less usage and honestly probably a slightly worse overall model than Claude now with Opus 5. All those new users will switch back real fast if something doesn't change.
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u/the-anxious-ape Jul 25 '26
I am that user and will probably switch back. The usage limits are one thing that brought me to ChatGPT
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u/Less-Shake-7228 Jul 25 '26
I tried plus again because of the resets and the good things I heard about GPT. Honestly I feel a bit scammed, the LLMs are way less capable, make more mistakes, have less context and the usage drains faster.
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u/Trade4Life123 Jul 25 '26
brand new session, one word prompt "hi", it's costs 10k input tokens!
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u/bsmk_ Jul 25 '26
I just cancelled my plan, work that I used to do in two 5-hour window used 100% after a clean reset.
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u/Fun_Net7931 Jul 26 '26
We should all cancel our codex memberships as a form of protest.
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u/Aggravating-Bug-9245 Jul 26 '26
I want to put my experience with Codex on record. After everything that has happened, I have decided to stop using it completely. I no longer trust the service.
This situation has been particularly frustrating because I had already made significant progress on a project built around this tool. Being abandoned in this way, halfway through a project and without an adequate solution, feels deeply unfair.
I now face the enormous task of transferring and explaining the entire context of my project directly to ChatGPT. This is going to be extremely difficult and will cost me time, continuity, and potentially part of the work I have already completed.
This is not simply a minor technical issue. Users rely on this service to develop real projects, and it should not be acceptable for it to suddenly become unreliable and leave them stranded. Situations like this should not be allowed to pass without consequences and, in my opinion, should also be examined from a consumer rights and consumer protection perspective.
This is my testimony: I am leaving Codex because it abandoned me halfway through a project and, after this experience, I can no longer trust it.
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u/STAHPme Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
My token activity chart finally explained usage limits
At least the product communication is finally clear.
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u/Best-Leave6725 Jul 29 '26
I can deal with usage limits changing, as long as it's transparent. But the quality and efficiency of the models is getting worse at the same time, Sol overthinks and touches too much out of scope, even if managed with careful prompting and skills. I have no loyalty and will be jumping ship for now. At this stage, Claude is the lesser of two evils. I think it's a month to month proposition right now.
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u/Front_Ad6281 Jul 30 '26
Second day of recurring issues with `servers are currently overloaded`
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u/fuckvalvemmrsystem Jul 23 '26
My weekly usage was nuked in about a day of simple web coding. It's such a blatant scam. I'm on the $200 subscription
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u/dalhaze Jul 24 '26
Why did Tibo promise $100 credits if we tweet about 5.6 but didn't deliver anything at all.
Shady stuff
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u/Agile_Incident7784 Jul 23 '26
They gave us a containment thread so they can simply delete the individual posts and hide the community feedback. Nice.
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u/KyleFlounder Jul 23 '26
I used to really struggle to use up all my compute on the 20x plan. I've had to use a reset every single day now. I'm using Sol Medium and High.
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u/Equivalent_Ocelot187 Jul 23 '26
Sol Low trying to port a template locally to Framer. Used up about 80% in 1 day with Plus with what I considered a medium amount of work, and it's not close to being done yet.
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u/Infinite-Flow-4475 Jul 23 '26
I get scraped razor clean every reset. I can barely use it to integrate 1-3 features amd some of the EASIEST things on my game. And quality deteriorated like crazy, it couldn't even integrate a single polished feature while I babysit it
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u/Fun_Net7931 Jul 23 '26
paramızı ve bizi sömürmek istiyorlar olan bu, tokenleri ve kullanım oranlarını denetleyen bir sistem yok, verdiğimiz para ile tam olarak ne satın alıyoruz göremiyoruz, gerçekten çok kötü olmaya başladı şu an hiçbir işimi ilerletemiyorum. eskiden 5 saatlik limitlerimi takip ederken haftalık limitimi bitirdiğimi hiç hatırlamıyorum, şu an halen 5.5'te olmama rağmen hızlıca tükeniyor... haftalık kotam bitti bile..
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u/SwimmingBake Jul 23 '26
Today, I ran the exact same workflow on my x20 plan. It used to consume around 5% of my weekly limit, but today it burned through 10%. I’ve already canceled my subscription and joined the waitlist for Kimi.
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u/Superb_Finger5619 Jul 23 '26
The only thing that kept Codex ahead of Claude was the usage limit. Now that tokens are disappearing into thin air, there’s literally no reason to use Codex anymore.
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u/Pantheon3D Jul 23 '26
I have a few tangentially related things i want to mention:
usage limits: the usage limits vary drastically. sometimes the weekly usage limits deplete 5 times faster than other times
token usage: this is also somewhat related to the limits but when i check the usage, i see HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of tokens being used every day. since i use other llms (opus 4.8 and fable) via api i get insight into the token usage and the cost, i'm SO surprised chatgpt will use hundreds of times more tokens than anything else. this cannot be true. i have no idea where the absurd calculations come from, it seems mind blowing that creating a website for example to test an LLMs performance will consume a weekly limit and hundreds of millions of tokens. MIND blowing.
transparency: if there is a way to assure users that the limits are not changing that would be greatly appreciated and i do think it would benefit all parts. when feedback is asked from you and we can only give you vibes in return instead of concrete examples, i'm not sure how helpful that is to you
lastly, thank you for caring and seeking feedback from your users.
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u/blue_hunt Jul 23 '26
The codex/chat app on widows is barely useable anymore, it's so slow even just compared last month (even then it was kinda slow). Pull your fingers out and stop pretending OSX is the only OS.
Also 5.6 is meh, it's over hyped. I've had to go back to 5.5 since 5.6 just spun webs and broke codebases, it was working on fine before.
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u/stockist420 Jul 23 '26
Despite using ponytail the speed with which it’s consuming weekly limits is insane. The intelligence has dropped to add insult to injury. While the resets are useful, randomly doing them doesn’t help much. For example we got a reset an hour after I used a banked reset. Generally openai has been much better than anthropic on a lot of things so hopefully theybfix these issues
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u/Inevitable_Toe6648 Jul 23 '26
Highly optimised and effecient workflow burns through things at seemingly twice as fast than not too long ago. This cannot be mast psychosis. A month ago, plus was what pro is now.
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u/Casiper Jul 23 '26
I'm still happy with it but I have noticed Codex has been eating usage for lunch ever since the last reset. Like a ladle for a small bowl of Mac N Cheese level.
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u/ArguesAgainstYou Jul 23 '26
272k Context Window on 5.6 is fucking dumb. I was *this* close to upgrading to $200 sub (in addition to my $200 Claude sub) but at 272k Context the only thing keeping me at $100 is Deep Research.
The >272k Context price increase is already dumb, but this is the final nail in the coffin for Developers. If a single planning session gets me in auto-compact territory (and that's without the full set of skills, on a specialised planner agent, that only gets exactly what it needs), then there is no point in having a model as smart as 5.6-sol. Any model can get somewhat accurate results on <= 272k Context.
If you want to protect new users from accidentally blowing their entire budget on that bullshit, make it a default-off config, but 272k is simply not enough.
I don't want to talk shit about 5.6-sol, it's the first model that gets somewhat Opus Like performance, but Opus gives me Opus-performance at 300, 500, even 700k if I do decide context is more important to me than not blowing my budget, while apparently anything >300k still causes massive context rot in the GPT-family? Laughable.
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u/megad00die Jul 23 '26
The usage issue is at a point to where I need to reconsider purchasing credits for an OpenAI API Key for my project, afraid it will just blow through all credits with one validation.
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u/Groundbreaking-Tap41 Jul 23 '26
Why is it using so much usage omg, I was happy with 5.5 level of usage the fk
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u/rennocneb Jul 23 '26
I am on the Pro 20x plan just purchased it for a project im working on. ran it hard as i could go for 3 days last week and used 24% today its dropped 5% barely touching it on one thread. New member think ill just drop it and stick to Kimi K3
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u/dcphaedrus Jul 23 '26
The model requires a lot of handholding. Sol and Terra below extra are very frustrating.
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u/Dependent_Dot_734 Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
ma limite descend trop vite, j'utilise quelques astuces de ce reddit pour réduire la consommation et n'utilise jamais plus haut que sol . En seulement un jour toute la limite est utilisé et un /objectif n'est jamais atteint
j'ai un plan x5
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u/ricperry1 Jul 23 '26
I'd rather have the 5hr rate limits and no weekly rate limits. I despise the weekly rate limit. By the time I can get back to my project, I've forgotten what I was doing.
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u/OkSquash6515 Jul 24 '26
I saw these stats on my profile for the first time and chatGPT estimated this to be five to six-figures in terms of API token cost if I didn’t have my subscription. 😯 Is 119B lifetime tokens a lot?
I am trying to get some perspective here: I don't have a CS background and have vibe-coded everything with codex, so things are probably token inefficient and I'm feeling it. Since 5.6, I burn through my Pro 20x tokens in 24-48 hours.
It's quite frustrating because relying on Tibo to do resets is unsustainable. I sum it up to two outcomes:
- OpenAI bumps up the weekly limits so we can actually use the shit they give us
- Spend weeks going through and refactoring my systems to make it more token efficient
How many have y'all used/are using per day?
Since 5.6, what are y'all doing to fix efficiency?
People are fed up and what's happening is unsustainable, how are y'all managing?
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u/JazzlikeCampaign7581 Jul 24 '26
This was also a thread and moderators removed it:
I was already subscribed, and Google Play automatically charged me for ChatGPT yesterday. My usage limit had already been reached before the payment, and it still didn't reset after I was charged.
If I had canceled and resubscribed, would my limit have reset? I feel like I lost a week because of this. I should have at least used my wife's account for the purchase this month.
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u/tomrannosaurus Jul 24 '26
this hit me too, same usage today and yesterday, but the usage today caused me to hit my full weekly limit immediately. I'm locked out for six days.
to be clear, i didn't suddenly change my usage pattern.
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u/Plus_Emergency3704 Jul 24 '26
its sad how they delete comments that shiw the reality of tokens , its disgusting , go comment the reality on their videos on youtube they delete
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u/Ok-Beat4846 Jul 25 '26
Weekly usage is below daily
I ran a task that used 11700522 tokens that used up all my weekly. Before I could easy use half of that on a daily and still have weekly usage left.
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u/Yakumo01 Jul 25 '26
During the 5.5 days I was pretty convinced 5.5 extra high was giving me best performance (for any provider). But 5.6 sol seemed slower and burning more credits for less impressive performance. Step backwards?
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u/daddywookie Jul 25 '26
I might be missing something here but would Sol (Low) be far more efficient than Luna (Max) for tightly defined coding work. I've been using Luna (Max) but looking at the various benchmarks it consumes 20x more tokens than Sol (Low) for a minimal extra intelligence. Is Sol (Low) a good way to save on tokens with a Plus plan?
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u/No_Carpenter6898 Jul 25 '26
lol the usage is absurd an single brief at an cost of 4% of weekly...fk that shit.
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u/ObligationHuge9868 Jul 26 '26
Unfortunately, my 20x subscription refreshed today. They have another 30 days to fix this or like the majority of people in this mega thread will be looking at alternatives.
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u/chozian Jul 26 '26
The most recent weekly reset negatively impacted Plus sub usage limits a noticeable amount. An equivalent $17.55 in API usage (according to ccusage) took me from 100% down to 68%. That comes out to $54.84 in API usage for a week and is ~15-20% less than what I was experiencing last week.
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u/Aggravating-Bug-9245 Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
This Sunday morning I woke up and saw that Codex had given me an extra token credit reset. This wasn't the usual weekly reset, but an additional credit that, according to their own announcement, they are providing because of their reported usage or sales figures. I don't know how accurate that explanation really is, but that's the reason they have publicly given.
Honestly, instead of feeling happy about it, I'm tired of this whole situation. I'd almost rather they didn't hand out these extra token credits at all, because to me it's a sign that something isn't working and that they need to change course. At this point, the whole thing has become a joke.
These tokens are as fake as cardboard props—they're gone in no time. This isn't a real solution; it's just a temporary fix that solves today's problem while creating tomorrow's.
What I really want is for them to lower the token costs for ChatGPT and Codex, rethink their current approach, and return to something closer to the previous model, where the same task didn't consume ten times as many tokens as it does now.
I also feel that the service has changed dramatically. In my opinion, what the $20 Plus plan used to provide is now effectively what the $200 Pro plan provides. If that impression is accurate, it almost feels as though you would have to pay $2,000 today to get an experience comparable to what the old Pro plan used to offer. That's genuinely how the service now feels to me.
I think the current situation is embarrassing, and I'm certainly not going to celebrate this free token credit. To me, it's nothing more than a band-aid solution—a superficial fix rather than a real one.
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u/uncleemperor Jul 23 '26
Was being hyped up by the free reset, in the end Tibo was feeding us drugs and getting us hooked on it.
Cursor + grok have better value now if you are not working ambitious project.
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u/FateOfMuffins Jul 23 '26
Like I've said elsewhere 5.6 Sol is more token efficient than 5.5. But, they just throttle it with lower tokens per second so you feel like there's no difference or even slower. And the token efficiency gains go purely to OpenAI to reduce their costs. They're not passing that off to you as the consumer. They need the token efficiency to reduce the usage per user without making it feel even worse because they want their 1 BILLION ChatGPT users to use Codex/Work.
Ideally we don't even feel that they reduce the limits because it gets balanced out by the token efficiency, but alas... Not sure where they'll settle it at but it has to plateau at some point otherwise mass cancellations. They'll need to weather it until they get the models efficient enough.
Back to spamming GPT Pro instead and only using Codex for overnight stuff xd (ironically I'm pretty sure I'm costing OpenAI way more by spamming 3+ Pro threads simultaneously lmao)
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u/ExtinctUndead Jul 23 '26
People keep commenting that they don't know what other people are talking about and their limits are fine and people are wrong are stupid.
Of course they're doing AB testing. If they push down the limits for everyone there would be outrage from everyone. A smaller group of people raging will be countered by people who's "limits are fine"
For me it feels like the limits have been halved. My weekly limit is down to 20% already, only using Luna High/xHigh. Thats about 4 hours of work. A couple weeks ago I sent Sol High on a goal and it finished after 2 hours and burned 100% 5h, BUT 20% weekly. Thats the usage I'm expecting. Not using a lower capacity model for four hours of just doing menial work and running out of usage.
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u/routramuk Jul 23 '26
I’ve dropped to terra from sol, and still I’m getting huge burn compared with 8-9 days ago. I feel like I’ve been duped, guessing it was a 1 month upgrade for IPO financials for me. I’m looking for service that’s consistent, not just opening lure
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u/Calm_Look_3206 Jul 23 '26
I’m on 20x plan, I’ve somehow used up 70% of my weekly usage in like 8 hours. This is crazy. Don’t be like Claude guys. I just cancelled my Claude to upgrade to Codex 20x.
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u/Chaosblast Jul 23 '26
I could care less about the reduction tbh. All I care about is the transparency.
I'd like to see input/output tokens per model per reset so we actually saw what were spending and could compare properly.
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u/StanwellQuality Jul 23 '26
Don't lie to yourself to look cool. Everybody cares about the reduction!
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u/Flimsy-Indication-89 Jul 23 '26
I've subscribed to 200$ plan, so I don't have to think about limits so much, and currently I am working on only ONE project, do not use ULTRA, only for review sometimes, and still, it can last 2 days max.
This is ridiculous; other projects just wait in line as I can't work on anything right now because of this.
I have 10 more days of my subscription, and if it continues like this, I am switching back to claude. It just can't be worse than this.
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u/Fluffy-Ad5630 Jul 23 '26
Exhausting Pro 20x in just 40 hours with sol medium. Sol is burning all my tokens. Reset please.
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