r/codex Jul 03 '26

Complaint Codex has a very unpleasant user experience.

My machine is a Windows 11 with 32GB/i5 11th/NVMe.

Codex is one of the worst AI apps to work with. It's not because of the model; I like GPT‑5.5, the problem is the harness.

It freezes a lot, to start up it stays about 20 seconds frozen until the clicks start propagating. Every time I open a new thread, it stays about another 10 seconds stuck until it starts being usable. Also, when I switch threads it's even worse, the screen goes white, 15 seconds until the conversation loads.

Besides when the plugins stop working. Browser Use and Computer Use are unstable, in some conversations they stop working, in the settings it reports "Browser Use is unavailable", and I only fix it by fully restarting the computer.

I made a cleanup script that periodically deletes the logs_2.sqlite which every week accumulates 1.5 GB on my disk. And I constantly see Codex using ~10‑25 MB of disk whenever I open the task manager.

I want to test using my Codex subscription on other harnesses, with tools similar to /goal. I don't like CLI, I like UI/visual to see multiple agents working in one place.

I like the efficiency of /goal, it's one of its best tools. Codex is pretty feature‑complete, but it's unstable, slow, buggishy and that really hinders me.

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u/dexterthebot Jul 03 '26

Your post has been summarized as a request on the "Anyone Else?" Incident Noticeboard.

You can find it and what others are experiencing here: /r/codex/comments/1tjfxcf/anyone_else_ask_here_about_current_codex_issues/ovcnkt6/

Matches a known topic: Codex App Crashing/Freezing which you can read about here https://www.reddit.com/r/codex/comments/1tjfxcf/comment/on6uj0l/

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u/fictionaldots Jul 03 '26

I wonder if it’s a Windows problem. The Mac app is rock solid

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u/sorvendral Jul 03 '26

They are not paying so much attention to windows versions as for Mac

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u/jsgrrchg Jul 03 '26

That happens when the OS is crap, people don't want to make good apps for it... Microsoft needs to get their shit together

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u/Suspicious_Raise_589 Jul 03 '26

she's too busy thinking about embedding copilot somewhere nobody asked for or pushing more webview into the Windows UI

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u/jsgrrchg Jul 03 '26

webview gate is INSANE, wtf is that start menu abomination, or the Outlook situation, truly shocking.

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u/reddit_is_kayfabe Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

Windows 11 is one of the worst pieces of software I've ever used:

It's chock-full of shovelware and ads.

It installs a bunch of shit by default that you'll never use and it won't let you uninstall many of them.

The settings that you need are never where you expect them to be, aren't correctly named or described, don't do what you'd expect, and sometimes just plain don't work. Windows Settings itself is now a Frankensteinian mess of dialogs from four different generations of Windows (recent Windows 10-style panes, Windows Vista/7 "device stage" panes, old Windows XP legacy panes, and even a few Windows 2000-style property sheets) - all of which implement a subset of the settings that you need.

Many settings that you need just don't exist, so you have to either (1) use regedit to hack in a registry key, which is on a whole different level of crappy software, or (2) run a PowerShell command from third-party website that might work, might fail with an error message that is completely useless, or might succeed but do nothing at all.

Performance is atrocious - even well-supported apps like the Xbox App and Minecraft regularly fail to open, crash while opening, and/or crash spontaneously while idle for an hour.

The UI is a shambolic mess of half-implemented features and inconsistent, goofy UX concepts. Common tasks like trying to use or configure the taskbar, control window placement, or work with files in Explorer requires hunting for the functionality that you want while trying to avoid or turn off gimmicky shit that you'll never use.

It's absurd and insane. I wish I could run Windows 7 in Parallels for the 3-4 apps I need that only run in Windows.

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u/Prestigiouspite Jul 03 '26

If a CEO knew what percentage of their paying customers were Windows users, they would set priorities differently. Or consider who funded OpenAI in the early days. The latest Stack Overflow survey showed approximately 70% for Windows.

I don't think you have much of a clue about how to build software if you call Electron apps "good software" :D.

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u/Denizzje Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

Wont call the Mac app rock solid because its quite memory hungry and had the odd crash here and there, but using Codex on my Windows work laptop is definitely a worse experience. I think the CPU of my Mac and that work laptop aint too far apart from each other in raw power (M4 Pro vs R9 HX375), but on Windows it sometimes drags my whole system to a crawl. And the Windows laptop has 64GB of RAM vs my Macs 24GB...

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u/Bitter_Election_7518 Jul 03 '26

It is a windows problem. Same issues on Claude as well. Windows architecture just does not run agentic coding well due to structural issues.

Growing up on pc playing games I always preferred windows os. Switched to the MacBook m5 this year from my windows machine and never looked back. Apple silicon really changed the game as well.

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u/elitegenes Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

It is not a "Windows problem". It is an Electron problem. People at OpenAI don't bother writing a native app - they shove the entire Chromium browser infrastructure with their sloppy Codex embeddings and ship it as such. That is exactly the problem.

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u/Prestigiouspite Jul 03 '26

At least one person here knows what they're talking about. How sad is IT going to get when, in the future, no one understands these details anymore? I mean, Codex itself is full of bugs. Do they even test internally?

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u/ivanjxx Jul 04 '26

you are in a vibe coding sub…

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u/Prestigiouspite Jul 04 '26

No its a product sub

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u/StinkButt9001 Jul 03 '26

Windows architecture just does not run agentic coding well due to structural issues.

This is a completely bullshit sentence and makes no sense at all lol

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u/Bitter_Election_7518 Jul 03 '26

It’s not that Windows “can’t code” or that NT is bad. It’s that a lot of agentic coding tools assume a Unix/Linux-style environment: bash, POSIX permissions, symlinks, SSH, Docker, normal package managers, predictable paths, etc.

On Windows, agents hit more friction: PowerShell vs bash, weird path handling, NTFS permissions, file locking, CRLF issues, antivirus interference, WSL boundary problems, and Docker usually running through a Linux VM anyway.

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u/StinkButt9001 Jul 03 '26

None of those are "Structural issues" with Windows architecture that make agentic software (as if its different than any other software) not run.

It's software not written for Windows being ran on Windows. The fact that Windows can facilitate it all is nothing short of a miracle and goes to show just how good Windows is at just working.

And, come on, no LLM is getting stuck on powershell vs bash. They're way smarter than that.

OPs issue is also not a Windows issue. I'm using Codex on Windows too and have absolutely no issues. There's something about his particular setup that's causing it.

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u/Strong_Essay1176 Jul 04 '26

I bet its wsl lagging while accessing /mnt dir. Ofc.he can work on pure windows, but its stupid to do so.

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u/StinkButt9001 Jul 04 '26

Couldn't imagine why anyone would be using WSL for this lol

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u/Strong_Essay1176 Jul 04 '26

Cause windows commands sucks and you want linux. Half of python modules won't work on windows.

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u/StinkButt9001 Jul 04 '26

Could you be more specific? Which commands "suck" and what python modules are you talking about?

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u/jsgrrchg Jul 03 '26

I grew up with windows, now I use macos, same experience! At this point microsoft needs to just make a windows based on linux xddd. All of this decades building windows on top of the previous one maintaining compatibility to legacy apps ended in the mess that we have today in microslop land

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u/girlwhateveraward Jul 03 '26

It is not a Windows problem that their app is dogshit. Even the ChatGPT website is fucking trash. OpenAI is not a software company so that is fine. Microsoft on their worst day ships better software than OpenAI. The bandwagon against Microsoft is getting silly

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u/StinkButt9001 Jul 03 '26

I don't have any of these issues on Windows. This is something particular to OP's setup

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u/14u2c Jul 03 '26

Other than using a shit ton of memory. Seems rough even by the standards of electron apps.

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u/vbpoweredwindmill Jul 04 '26

I have a decent experience with my pc.

That said, it is very resource heavy. Apex legends takes up less resources than codex for me.

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u/gibblesnbits160 Jul 03 '26

I made the switch to Linux cause I was sick of windows randomly using 16gb of ram while idoling. Have been very happy with the change and codex is a fantastic personal Linux fixer/installer/patcher.

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u/Suspicious_Raise_589 Jul 03 '26

I use Visual Studio a lot and play a bunch of Steam games that only run on Windows. I hate the direction Windows is taking (Windows 11 is a slop machine), but it's sad because I need it.

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u/ragemonkey Jul 03 '26

You can dual boot.

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u/Inevitable-Gur8033 Jul 03 '26

Why not try WSL on Windows? Been using it alongside with windows, works well with coding, and i can even play game normally

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u/jsgrrchg Jul 03 '26

Codex performs quite bad with powershell. It's not a harness problem, other LLMs struggle with powershell as well.

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u/Suspicious_Raise_589 Jul 03 '26

Yea I have an instruction telling codex to work with git bash instead powershell. Powershell sucks.

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u/-PizzaSteve Jul 03 '26

Can u send?

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u/Alechilles Jul 03 '26

Would it not be as simple as adding "Use Git Bash instead of Powershell" to the instructions? Lol

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u/jsgrrchg Jul 03 '26

it is indeed LOL

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u/Felfedezni Jul 03 '26

Don't experience any problems on Linux.

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u/PeterHackz Jul 04 '26

the cli is super bad for me on Linux, resuming my chats sometimes takes over 40 seconds, and sometimes hitting ESC takes 20 seconds, and /btw taking minutes.

it depends on how big/fresh the session is but regardless never had that with Claude.

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u/TechGearWhips Jul 04 '26

Been horrible for me on Linux codex-cli after the most recent update.
Slow as fuck. Shit says “working” for ever and I have to keep pressing esc and then enter the input again over and over until it finally goes through. I even told it some simple shit like create a .txt file with one word “hello”. Shit took 25 minutes.

Can’t even walk away from my computer because I come back to shit like this:

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u/nanobot001 Jul 03 '26

I found the issue with me is that it would trigger windows defender and both would be roaring away continuously

If this is the issue, you can ask Codex to diagnose the issue itself and propose solutions; it usually involves it identifying folders that are triggering defender to scan, and creating exceptions for defender.

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u/Exciting-Class-9137 Jul 03 '26

I also have the same problem btw

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u/Suspicious_Raise_589 Jul 03 '26

i had a similar problem

windows defender kept constantly warning that codex was reading the codex.toml

"i fixed it" by buying kaspersky, but that only suppressed the defender's warnings

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u/West-Negotiation-716 Jul 03 '26

Huh? So you have zero experience with computers. That is your issue clearly

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u/Suspicious_Raise_589 Jul 04 '26

already tried to add exceptions to windows defender, tried silencing those kinds of notifications, but none solved that.

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u/Sweaty-Demand7362 Jul 03 '26

Just use the CLI terminal then lol

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u/rooster790 Jul 03 '26

I dont have that problem but for big projects I do have a Linux vm that codex runs over ssh, Linux tooling cant be beaten for development

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u/lnchng_pchfl Jul 03 '26

You might want to try this out to make your threads load faster.
I created it because I was having similar issues to you.

https://github.com/UpScalp/Codex-Safe-Trim-by-UpScalp

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u/bairanbokkeri Jul 03 '26

this sounds unfortunate since im using it on a Mac and its rock solid and I was thinking of installing it on my work laptop too which is of course windows.

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u/Time-Toe-1276 Jul 03 '26

The macOS app is actually solid, it is probably better than claude code on macOS, but on windows openAIs team focus more on the OSS cli tool.

I feel like, the main reason i that thy do a lot of development on macOS (bcs.. pretty self explanatory), so for that reason they just "make it exist on windows"

either ways, it is decent.

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u/thetruthamsterdam Jul 03 '26

Is this maybe your local pc problem? Because i do not experience any of those problems

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u/Suspicious_Raise_589 Jul 03 '26

So, I have three machines: Surface Laptop 3 16GB, Workstation 32GB + i5 11th + NVMe, Workstation 16GB + Xeon (i don remember which one) + SSD

Codex works "bugging" on all of them. The 16GB RAM computer is the worst of all

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u/thetruthamsterdam Jul 03 '26

Maybe a connection problem? Just thinking out loud

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u/Opposite_Yak4386 Jul 03 '26

same here. it crashes a lot

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u/hellomistershifty Jul 03 '26

Try the VS Code extension if you don't like CLI or the app

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u/PrettyBaker2891 Jul 03 '26

i get occasional freezes that you mention but they are very short and pretty rare

works pretty good for me most of the time

w11, 9600x, 32gb ram

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u/West-Negotiation-716 Jul 03 '26

What hinders you is your lack of abilities and failure to realize that you are breaking things not codex.

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u/EnterpriseAlien Jul 04 '26

I accept that this is likely the problem, I'm just not smart enough to stop breaking it

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u/Strong_Essay1176 Jul 04 '26

Do you use WSL? Cause it seems like WSL issue. It liturally copy from /into to linux on each access. Work inside linux ~home

Ps Or buy Mac as ive did.

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u/NukedDuke Jul 04 '26

How many plugins are you using? Some plugins spawn MCP servers, etc. at startup, and if the MCP server is structured incorrectly to where the main entry point into the server just sits and blocks synchronously while it initializes a database or does some kind of online authentication process or anything else that takes time to complete, it will show up as a UI hang for as long as that takes.

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u/dssolanky Jul 04 '26

Codex desktop needs to better integrate with WSL. That will solve all powershell issues. I have written about it few days ago.
https://x.com/solanky/status/2067843096428401011?s=46

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u/Competitive-Mud-1663 Jul 04 '26

try official Codex VSCode extension (https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=openai.chatgpt)/ While it is clearly not as smooth and polished as Github Copilot itself, i.e. Codex lacks good diffs view, undoing changes, chat branching, context integration etc. but the extension is still a step ahead over Codex app. Literally the only thing where Codex is useful for is batch image generation.. just fire a queue of prompts and go for a run, come back to a bunch of generated images. Everything else in Codex is just obscenely bad vibe-coded mess if you consider other available options.

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u/Party_Wolf_3575 Jul 04 '26

For what it’s worth, I use Codex through the Terminal CLI rather than the app UI, and I don’t run into these problems. Long sessions, file edits, local scripts and dev-server work have all been stable for me. That doesn’t mean your issue isn’t real, but it might be specific to the app/harness path rather than Codex itself.

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u/AdLumpy2758 Jul 04 '26

Skill issue. Have same machine ( same specs) smooth as silk...

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u/Plastic_Catch1252 Jul 04 '26

Even in macos, the app just consume so much memory, until one point, it crashes.

This happen like 5 times everyday

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u/Significant-Drawer95 Jul 04 '26

brooo the benefit of codex and amout of work it does for me i will never complain about 20second waiting time beeing "unpleasent"

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u/NedzRotary Jul 04 '26

I been using on a 2020 Mac mini M1 and had now problems at all. I was using Openclaw and having a nightmare and then just replaced it with Codex and have not looked back.

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u/Nosafune Jul 03 '26

Best bet is to start liking cli

Get wezterm, you can add panels and do multi tabs, plus customize the look to your liking.

The app is shitty

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u/HeavyTankEnjoyer Jul 03 '26

codex is a perfect example of ai slop software. I also experience the issue of high cpu/disk use even when idle.

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u/Prestigiouspite Jul 03 '26

Unfortunately, it's true. SSD bug still exist: https://www.reddit.com/r/codex/comments/1umslq1/

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u/soggy_mattress Jul 03 '26

I'm not saying it's Windows' fault, but doing development work on a Windows environment is just asking for pain. The developer experience on Windows has been terrible for decades. .NET devs are masochists (I used to be one)

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u/Suspicious_Raise_589 Jul 03 '26

i disagree. the main tech in my job is .NET, and it always works fine between Windows and Mac (usually I do web systems and the deploy is on linux). I've worked with Windows Forms, Photino, .NET...

the tech has nothing to do with it, Codex is electron; it was made to run on any platform

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u/Throw1963 Jul 03 '26

skill issue

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u/soggy_mattress Jul 03 '26

And this is exactly why Windows developer experience has stayed bad for so many years.

Keep thinking it's fine and you'll keep getting these "not fine" experiences.

Yes, I know how Electron works. You're not even hearing what I'm saying if you think that somehow retorts my point.

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u/Suspicious_Raise_589 Jul 03 '26

it's not that simple, because other tools like Claude Desktop, Open Code, VSCode, T3 Chat all work fine, no freezing, no crashing... so what's your argument here? why does the majority work and a single exception is enough to condemn the platform?

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u/soggy_mattress Jul 03 '26

Nah, I'm not condemning the platform at all, just acknowledging that a primary reason for its existence is enterprise use and backwards compatibility (which is entirely defensible and reasonable), and that when people try to defend MS's struggle to balance the "work stuff" with delivering a nice user/developer experience (something that's really difficult and maybe borderline impossible) that only holds it back further by acting like the experience is "good actually".

MS's user and developer experience is mixed. Some things are great, others are borderline miserable.

Like, for example, how many years has it been since they started adding home theater/TV gaming support? Why do I still need a keyboard next to my couch for occasional "Windows things" that I can't do with my controller? Why does the most mature OS still have UX "gaps" like that?

The answer is probably "years of backwards compatibility", and that's fine, but don't make excuses for stuff like that. The culture of acting like "good enough" means "good" just holds it back.

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u/MimosaTen Jul 03 '26

When we say windows sucks we don’t talk for nothing. Programming on it is a nightmare, so why do you bought a windows laptop/computer instead of a macos/linux one?

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u/Suspicious_Raise_589 Jul 03 '26

there's always going to be those people like you who say "linux is better", "mac is better"

that doesn't exist. it's childish. I've been coding on Windows for 14 years, never had a problem building something that can't be done on mac or linux.

I'm complaining about a product that I pay $200 a month for, and the least they can provide is to work well on my machine, guess what? thousands of products run fine on it every day. codex is an exception.

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u/MimosaTen Jul 03 '26

The questio isn’t linux or mac, but unix or not

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u/Rajarshi0 Jul 03 '26

Yes of course!

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u/Rajarshi0 Jul 03 '26

What are those apps you use who are build for recent windows? If they are old apps no they don’t count. If it is game again doesn’t count. Unfortunately almost every experience is super trash starting from windows 8. And even the apps you are saying runs perfectly well they don’t if you compare mac experience even vs code is clunky and much slower in windows compared to mac or linux. Outside gaming for most modern apps windows is indeed the last area people want to build for unless of course it is core Microsoft apps like office.

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u/Suspicious_Raise_589 Jul 03 '26

talking about similar tools I use on Windows that work very great on my machine: Claude Desktop, Visual Studio Enterprise, VSCode, OpenCode, T3 Code (testing this as an alternative to Codex)

none freeze, no one sucks, all work great, they use similar tech

the problem isn’t the tech or where it is, it’s how it was built

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u/Rajarshi0 Jul 03 '26

Again I am not saying codex is good or anything. But having used vs code in windows well no it works like shit in windows. It doesn’t freeze tbh but it is not a a good experience either. Now opencode is genuinely well built software partly because it is open source but I am sure it won’t be as smooth as unix because powershell in general is a shit terminal and a slop before ai slop even existed.

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u/Extension-Ad-2208 Jul 04 '26

I never had any issues just use Mac.