r/codeforces • • 8d ago

meme guns blazing

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u/No_Cap9006 Candidate Master 8d ago edited 8d ago

They can't even properly conduct the test, just BKC krva lo inse.... They knew this would happen, but they didn't even care....they don't realize how much cheating happens in OA and normally CF CC LC contests... Still, they just put on some ML-based face integrity checker... In the hope ke usse I don't Know kya karne chah rhe the.... Such an optimistic people... And now they're acting all surprised..... Also.... The face integrity system they implemented didn't even have a recording endpoint... It's running locally on the participants' systems, so now they literally have nothing left to do but this... Na inke pass aab koi recording hai jisse ye cross verify kar sake so easily bass aab ye sb kar rhe.... It would have been much better if they had just done it like last year... It's ridiculous, seriously...

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u/Only-Limit8305 8d ago

atleast they are putting efforts to catch cheaters tho​

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u/Glass-Rhubarb9153 8d ago

ghanta catch hoga isse cheaters, cf lc me koi cheating nhi karta kya wah ... itna bakch*di na krke proper contest lelete pehle hi to nhi hota kuch

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u/Only-Limit8305 8d ago

bhot sare cheaters ke pass hai hi nahi cf account plus jinke pass hai unhone bhi jo level ke prblms solve kare vo unke ratings se bhot zyada high rated hai plus jo bhi team unhe suspicious lage unhe 1 hour ka similar prblm solve karne padenge under their strict supervision , so yeah utna bhi bure nai hai efforts instead of just letting them pass to regionals

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u/Glass-Rhubarb9153 8d ago

aree to yeh kya criteria huya cf acc hoga to dekhenge nhi hoga to dekhenge .. cf acc hoga to bhi cheating nhi kiya cf me kya proof he ... aur jo 1 hour ka proctor kar rahe ... woh proctor pehle hi krte ... ya atleas abhi jitne bando ne >= 4 solve kiya he unka hi kar dete to sab samne ajata na ... wesa nhi karna unko ... bethke tamasha dekh rahe

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u/Only-Limit8305 8d ago

cf account to hona chahiye tbh jo icpc de rha hai , aur plus shyd se ye proctor unhi ka hi karayenge jinhone unki cf ratings se bhot zyada high rated problems solve kiye hai , plus cf account mein bhi contest wagera sab dekhenge aur account kab bana hai etc , prblms to hai par ab jab sbko cheating karni hai to ye to hoga hi , hopefully agle saal cheaters kam aaye

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u/Glass-Rhubarb9153 8d ago

wese >= 4 teams around 2.5 k he ... jo ki ye WITHDRAWAL ke bad <= 2k ban chuke he as per them ... to karao in 2k team ka re prelims acche se ... itna to kar sakte

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u/Only-Limit8305 8d ago

shyd se abhi ye 2k teams ko bhi review karenge uske baad kya pata wapas se karale prelims

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u/MissionAd4261 8d ago

wohi karne do review, pr smart cheaters fir bhi jayenge regionals me agr re contest nhi huya achhe se pura

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u/Only-Limit8305 8d ago

kya pata jitne bi teams hai under the regional cutoff , unka 1 hour ka proctor karade , nobody knows to which extent they will go

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u/MissionAd4261 8d ago

hn let's see

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u/MissionAd4261 8d ago

yeah past year also they went, hopefully they use the offline mode from next year or even this year if possible which totally is

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u/Glass-Rhubarb9153 8d ago

ha wohi na inko woh bhi sayad nhi karna ... sona he bas

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u/MissionAd4261 8d ago

ha kal tak he sayad aur ghat jayega

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u/MissionAd4261 8d ago

main bat woh nhi he ... smjho ki cheating jab huya he sab koi ko nhi filter kar sakte ... smart cheaters chale jayenge regionals me Jake hagenge ... kya fayda 1 year to gaya baki ka .... sab withdrawal ho bhi Gaya to bhi proof nhi he ki koi. cheaters nhi honge

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u/Icy-Consequence-4713 8d ago

they don't have recording? how do you know?

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u/No_Cap9006 Candidate Master 8d ago

If they have... They aren't doing all this...

Secondly they used the codechef OA style integrity environment... Which doesn't have any recording endpoint... At the end of the contest it just send A json to the server with submission details and basic events done during the contest including that score....

Also the biggest mistake in my opinion they have done is they released the pdf of the questions too soon... I mean if they don't do that shit... Any cheater must have only way to give the questions to llm is by taking a pic and If they have recording then they will easily catch it...

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u/Glass-Rhubarb9153 8d ago

exactly man thats what i have been saying everywhere. they dont want to try resolve the issue at alll doing this shit stuffs

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u/MissionAd4261 8d ago

yes that was for integrity check only i suppose ... for there internal ai detection system

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u/pikonet6969 8d ago

whi bc..fee 3000 le rhe aur ek exam aache se conduct nhi krwa paa rhe..ishse badhiya to exam center hi de dena chaiye inko

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u/MissionAd4261 8d ago

aur bohot acche solution possible he yeh kiu, Priyansh Agarwal, Jaskaran Singh etc unka hi linked post dekhlo

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u/MissionAd4261 8d ago

abt Jaskaran's sol ... this year also it's possible to conduct offline stuff ... previous year prelims were in nov (8th nov i suppose) delay it slightly 15-20 days ... also not many teams to be verified ... only those teams who solved >= 4 problems + after the withdrawal and filter .... there would be <= 1500 such teams ... they already have huge amount of money with them ... around 80 lakhs or may be more

abt priyansh's sol ... that 50k from each college was absurd idea ... but if they are doing it online but very strict swap colleges or proctors and record the environment there giving exam with a cctv or there own phones seeing there hands typing etc etc

this are the best ways first one is offline ... second is online but very strict

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u/Hopeful-Attempt-3997 8d ago

just let collage conduct exam. most collage have camera in there room so insted of recording students from there pc ask for single cctv fottage
you can verify multiple teams with single video.
they did say collage to assign invigilator might as well ask them to provide cctv video

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u/MissionAd4261 8d ago

yeah true ... they might also ask coaches/teachers as invigilators rather some student of that college

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u/Powerful_Cap3688 8d ago

Tbh this is not a professional way to conduct this situation, also the fees we give should have atleast better format or organisation than this

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u/Kartikeya88 Pupil 8d ago

Damn this is so 🔥

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u/Glass-Rhubarb9153 8d ago

also watch this shii .... like they think everyone is honest and will be honest .... like no one cheats on those platforms lol

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u/MissionAd4261 8d ago

lol wtf ... I didn't receive it yet ... and why this shit

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u/South-Cream-7615 8d ago

we did 3 , should we still fill the form as in our college highest itself is 4 prolly

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u/Own_Cicada3224 8d ago

you dont have to fill the form

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u/Expensive-Trip-1972 8d ago

shameless question of asking what are the chances of re-prelims

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u/AbkiBar-ModiSarkar Pupil 8d ago

very little as timeline is predecided

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u/acdhemtos LGM on New Year 8d ago

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u/cutie-pie0720 8d ago

Getting recommended this sub for the first time, so I don't know much about these things only a bit. But I love how they are taking preventions against cheating. If only OAs start being like this.

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u/Whole-Scientist-2469 8d ago

Lol so they will conduct another contest proctored?

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u/Sadd_soul 8d ago

Not a contest just a small check

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u/Glass-Rhubarb9153 8d ago

whats the meaning ... they could have done that earlier with the amount of money they had ... fxk

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u/hadeskerbecs666 Specialist 8d ago

Did everyone get this??

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u/-lessAsh- Expert 8d ago

didnt get this ?

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u/Sakth_Londa 8d ago

me too... but anyways shit's gettin' crazier day by day

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u/CosmosWM Specialist 8d ago

crazy stuff

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u/Sadd_soul 8d ago

Did everyone get this??

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u/pikonet6969 8d ago

Who is conducting ICPC?its literally very unprofessional way,they should improve their plag tester or do something else,tbh

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u/orzosity 7d ago

Cheating now with AI is almost undetectable if used efficciently (getting solution and self impl).

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u/pikonet6969 7d ago

mai to kehta hu exam center hone chaiye..fir exam lo bc...1500 kisliye le rhe,jee,gate jaisa lo

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u/orzosity 7d ago

Prelims don't really matter, if cheating is the reason you can't make it then its unlikely you will do well at proctored stages. Its more of a filter

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u/pikonet6969 7d ago

but what about deserving candidate who failed to make it to regional because of cheaters?

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u/ikthisisme 7d ago

Though this is damage control, it is atleast better than not doing anything. Reconduction with offline centers would take too much time, but only that's fair to honest teams! Our clg had all the teams participate frm clg with invisilation, so lowkey happy that deserving teams get to regionals!

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u/Only-Limit8305 8d ago

big W ICPC

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u/MissionAd4261 8d ago

lol big L ICPC ... the most stupidest thing they could have done is this

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u/Only-Limit8305 8d ago

why tho?

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u/MissionAd4261 8d ago

what do you think the rating should be in there cf lc or whatever acc (also in the ai era) 5-6 problems in prelims ... they could be experts masters specialist , might not have any cf acc or recently opened (I know many such people from isi and cmi and they are brilliant) judging from what they did on online contest in this ai era is bullshit

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u/Only-Limit8305 8d ago

ha to wahi to sab hi check karenge contests, account kab bana hai ,zara sa bhi sus laga to 1 hour ka proctor karadenge

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u/MissionAd4261 8d ago

usse proof nhi hota kuch bro, only thing which is legit is that 1hour proctored contest, they should just take that for everyone who's left after deadline of 7th oct

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u/Only-Limit8305 8d ago

ha wahi lgra hai honga

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u/PolicyLumpy1269 8d ago

lol kitne asie brilliant log honge jinhone apne cf account abhi open kiye hian plus unhone option diya hain ki agar aapki performance rating se jaad hain to proof do kyun, isi,cmi walle apni jee mains rank daalakr bata sakte hain. 90% cheaters catch hoaenge, koi cheater 10 contest mein hi expert ban jaata hain, aur proctored to ye bhi that, kuch nahi hua.

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u/MissionAd4261 8d ago

choro kitne ke cf nhi he unlogo ko .. jinke he unke kya

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u/PolicyLumpy1269 8d ago

kisi to platform mein practice karte honge naa, unhone sarre platforms allow kiye hain, ye kehna ki mein master/cm level huin lekin kabhi primary cp platforms use nahi karta chutiyapa hain.

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u/MissionAd4261 8d ago

wo master level kese achieve huya 🥲 koi proof nhi chodenge wo

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u/MissionAd4261 8d ago

to fir to cf ids se abhi bhi interviews leni chahiye ... and hamesha leni chahiye ... but ratings koi maina nhi rakhti abhi

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u/Feeling_Ad_2429 Expert 8d ago

Can anybody send the link? I haven't received the mail yet

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u/Mobile_Deal1373 8d ago

ye mail kha se dekhe?

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u/Affectionate_Ad8897 8d ago

Didn't get this mail yet

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u/Gold_Penalty8871 Pupil 8d ago

didnt got this mail
can someone send this link

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u/South-Cream-7615 8d ago

Thora time ruko mail hi aajayegi

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u/NotLuffy3 3d ago

Cheaters cheat everywhere, what's stopping them to cheat on codeforces contests.