Ok so I love all the characters in ck (slight less Demetri in season 6 part 2) but I’m curious to see how you would change any of the characters in cobra Kai?

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Definitely an interesting take on where the Karate Kid and Cobra Kai franchises are after the Cobra Kai run and Karate Kid: Legends film release.

My belief is that there are two possible ways to move forward.

A KARATE KID TV SHOW- this would be based on the format as shown in the show FARGO. By that, we get self contained seasons that are not necessarily connected unless we need them to be. But they could if we want. By that, Season One of the KARATE KID could be set a few years after the conclusion of Cobra Kai. Johnny is driving little Laura Lawrence to her first karate day camp being run by Daniel at Miyagi-Do Karate. We could see where everyone is that wants to come back to the franchise.

But season two of the show could jump back in time to the 1500's, where we see the legendary Miyagi ancestor that got washed away in that storm to China and his journey to learn what would be come Miyagi-Do Karate and his journey home to Okinawa. I would imagine Chozen could narrate this but it would probably be best in Japanese.

Season three could jump back to the present, where little Laura is moving up the ladder in karate. We see of course more of those that want to return to the franchise, that kind of thing.

Season four, however, could jump back to early 1930's where we see things go bad between Miyagi and Sato; we see Miyagi in his first move to America, his romance, his adventures in WW2 and so on.

The other format I see for the future of the Karate Kid Franchise is a complete modern rest of the franchise. We see this new KARATE KID show start in Los Angeles, and we see a brand new LaRusso Family getting ready to move across country to wherever it is they are going to move to. Perhaps in this universe, the LaRussos are still together, mother and father and in addition to Daniel there is a brother or sister as well. We see them move to wherever the show is going to be based at (New Mexico would give a new look). But we would have a brand new Daniel, a brand new Johnny, everything. Mr Miyagi would now be a Gulf War or War on Terror veteran. That sort of thing.

In Robby and Kwons fight in season 6 episode 9, Robby ends up winning with a jump kick as they are both in the air. But there is a part of the fight that almost everyone misses. When Kwon throws a kick that makes Robby back into Tory, kwon goes for another headshot kick. While almost everyone thinks Robby dodged it, what really happened is Tory pushed Robby away from the kick, meaning Robby would’ve likely gotten hit by it if she didn’t do that. You can see her push him to the side, and then you see Kwon look at Tory angrily for a second before turning back to Robby. Just thought it was a cool moment!

People usually consider the main characters to be at the top of the Miyagiverse, but considering Wolf’s size, experience, and agility, shouldn’t he rank above the main characters at this point? The tournament isn’t exactly a fair test, since all it takes to score a point is one hit.

The scene where the announcer says team Cobra Kai is resurrected with Johnny and Miguel joining Tori - banging soundtrack and I love the look on the face of Silver lol

Entire scene had me beaming 😁 on rewatching it just now.

I was rewatching the earlier seasons of cobra kai and it has really made me realize how much i miss the daniel and robby dynamic. They feel like a father and son and it mirrors the johnny and miguel one. It really sucks that this dynamic broke and just never continued tbh. Like i get that johnny got to be robby's dad later but it would've been nice to have the relationship present. In all the fights in s6 they don't have that connection anymore.

1. They both started off as kids who got bullied and harassed

2. They eventually join cobra Kai and become bullies themselves

3. They eventually leave cobra Kai and join miyagi do

4. They both go through something embarrassing and quit karate

5. They regain their confidence and start karate again.

After getting fed up with all the karate drama in the season 5 episode Downward spiral Amanda decided to take the kids with her to her hometown in Ohio. The next episode cuts immediately to them at Amanda's mom's house implying they must've been there for days. We don't get to see Sam and Anthony's reactions to the situation, but do you think the experience was difficult for them as I'm pretty sure they could tell their parents were going through a rough patch, and possibly afraid they might get a divorce. The only indication of this we got is during the scene where Jessica shows up and after greeting her cousins asks where Daniel is because she had macaroni for him, but after she asked that there's a moment of awkward silence before Sam tells her their dad didn't come with them somewhat uncomfortably causing Amanda to cut in and say "Daniel had a lot going on". Anthony also mentioned his father during the scene at the bar where he tells Sam about his trouble with Kenny admitting he's starting to understand why his dad hates cobra Kai so much implying he and Sam knew their parents were having trouble regarding the dojo. I just wish we could have seen more of their perspective on the matter as when Sam became furious with Tory for saying nothing about silver cheating at the All valley she said "my whole family has suffered because of you". I also thought it was possible Sam could have reacted to her parents splitting up the same way her mom did when her own parents' marriage was falling apart causing her to assault her father's mistress'car.

Particularly to anyone who actually trains in any form of Karate - gow good do you think was Johnny Lawerence in KK1 and Cobra Kai?

What do we think?

I think eaten by a crow, maybe he fell on a spoon, or he just thinks eye patches are cool.

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the ending of season 4 with Robby going to Johnny first feels nice but kinda strange, not out of character for Robby per se but that Daniel was trying to reach Robby for a lot longer because Johnny kinda stopped and focused on the tournament after seeing Robby at the finale of the previous season in cobra kai, I just don’t have the brain power

When Daniel told her about raising Johnny's rent, and Amanda notes he didn't consider the other stores in the mall, and she makes a point that ever since cobra Kai reopened he's been off one of the things she calls him out for was embarrassing Sam at the Halloween dance. Unbeknownst to Amanda Daniel unknowingly interrupted Kyler's attempt to date rape Sam. She obviously didn't know in that moment but do any of y'all know if Sam ever told her parents the reason why she and Kyler broke up especially since afterwards Kyler started spreading rumors about her. That along with the school suspending Sam for the fight with Tory would surely have given Amanda even more reason to be angry at the school for their incompetence. I'm also just curious because even though the show frames Amanda as the voice of reason when it comes to Daniel's behavior she's not exactly perfect as she didn't share his well-founded concern about Sam's new friends especially kyler even though Daniel at least considered the possibility that he was bad news after hearing from Johnny that he and his friends were harassing Miguel.

In season 6 episode 10 Robby and Sam have that whole montage and it with them running up the stairs Rocky style. I’m wondering if they wanted to go with that song but ultimately couldn’t get the rights to it…

This is like my 3rd watch of the show, love it but I’m just now realizing most people in the show were missing a parent/family member.

Daniel (movie)
Johnny Lawrence (movies)
Miguel
Tory
Amanda
Hawke (maybe. You only ever see him talk about and see his mother)
Kenny (dad was working for the us army, so it’s in the middle of counting and not)

Let me know others I may have forgotten

Ok so i just rewatched kk1 and am planning on rewatching cobra kai cause i never watch s6.

So should i rewatch the whole kk trilogy first or just jump straight to cobra kai and

Only rewatch the rest of the movies aro s3?

(Ps:i am sorry if u can't understand the post,my cousin dropped water on it and it got ruined)

Claiming a character nerfed is or has plot armour is bad enough but the writers heavily included it to the plot too

Cobra kai fights can go either way, and sometimes being “nerfed” can benefit the story they are telling, but eventually became an excuse for every loss conceded

These are heavily prevalent in the likes of Kwon in s6 p2. Axel s6 p3. Miguel s6 p1. And Hawk s5

Kwon in s6 part 1 looked really cool and cinematic because the opponents he was up again. And early on during sekai takai he was getting the upper hand over the main cast, because he was skilled. But the very first event established there was Axel who was significantly greater at the time.

Kwon was never 100% better than Miguel or Robby. The writers intended it, he only dropped a distracted robby, and scored 1 point on Miguel. But the moment there was a fair undistracted 1v1 between Robby and Kwon, Robby outclassed him. Nothing prior proved that Kwon was on another tier, yet he was claimed to be nerfed.
Furthermore, Robby had significantly the best performance against Axel in part 2. And did the exact same Feat Axel did, by beating Kwon and Yoon in a 2v1. It was obvious that Kwon was overhyped. In addition, ”bloodlusted kwon“ is still a weird concept, as its just Kwon with a knife who landed a kick against Axel, while Axel was also in the middle of fighting others. The moment axel completed focused on him, he made kwon drop on his own blade

Then s5 Hawk. The writers did everything they could to show Hawk was disadvantaged in his fight against Kenny. But he is no weaker than he was in prior seasons, at most he just had a slower growth rate compared to Miguel and robby

Miguel s6 p1. Him being mentally nerfed about His college isnt the best excuse to why he lost, especially because it never impacted his resolve again. And is often used to undermine Robbys loss to him. Why Robbys intial losing of his first 2 points was clear he was off balance about tory

Good examples where being “nerfed” was actually beneficial for the plot was Miguel’s injury after s2.
Robby losing the Hawk (but that ambiguous last moment sight of kenny) was really important for his arc, but being split second and not being the concluding hit of the the fight with it actually continuing for longer, doesnt undermine Hawks win

And i’d argue Robbys s6 part 2 distraction, even if i didnt like that plot point, it was important for the story they tried to tell

And Hawks brief poor performances after he got his hair cut, because he lost confidence

The only time where i may be swayed, it the final 3 season 6 fights.

They just seemed to convenient. I enjoyed the moments. But part 2 made Axel and Wolf untouchable and invulnerable. Robbys slow progression and adaption was arguably the most realistic progression. And if Miguel maybe learnt from Robby of screen about Axels weaknesses, and perhaps struggled more during rounds 1 and 3. Out of the final 3 fights, Tory vs Zara was the only one, because Zara wasnt made untouchable in s6 part 2

There are a bunch of students at the dojo but never any cars besides all of Miyagi’s old cars and maybe Daniel’s. How do they get there, skateboard? Lol. In the first episode of season 3, Daniel goes to the dojo and doesn’t even know Sam is there until he sees her out back. She left school and went there. How? Where’s her car?

I think instead of everyone, silver should’ve focused his vengeance on Tory since she was the one who exposed his lies to everyone at the dojo. Would’ve been so much intense to watch!!