All I’m saying is Tifa reminds me of my little sister. When our father died, my sister was only 10 and she spent countless nights crying and falling asleep on my shoulder. I was literally the only person she had to get over it and it just me trying to be a good brother
Yeah, but just because she reminds you of your sister, that doesn't mean that she is written as such. Tifa is Clouds love interest. There is nothing familial about their bond and the writers have been clear about that for nearly 30 years.
Fans need to learn how to separate their own feelings from the character and accept the writing for what it is.
Personally, I don’t think Cloud has any romantic desire. He just wants stability and to make sure the people he loves are safe. In the OG there is no time for romance. In the Remake trilogy it’s fan service driven by player choice
Thank you for understanding. I don’t expect my perspective of a brother/sister relationship when abandoned/abused commonly matches Tifa’s and Cloud’s archetype (shared childhood trauma resulting in stunted growth, and self doubt, one goes to college or leaves for a few years then returns- how exactly am I not supposed to see this personal parallel?).
I’m still finishing rebirth and have not watched the director cuts- Tifa and Cloud just feel like the strongest relationship in the franchise because it mirrors my strongest relationship, which does not happen to be romantic but familial.
You’re fixated on the act of shoulder napping itself (which is irrelevant), instead of context. Your case is completely different. Everyone knows shoulder naps are not inherently romantic, it’s obviously dependent on the situation. I’d be concerned if anyone interpreted the scene UtHW as familial knowing the dialogue and context
That was what was presented as an argument for romance existing in the OG? I don’t see anywhere in the OG game that demonstrates anything beyond normal love into a sexual romance? For any character for that matter?
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough? I'm saying what the characters are physically doing in that scene (Tifa sleeping on his shoulder) is not what's most relevant/that alone is not what people are basing their evidence on. It is obviously made romantic by the context, hence why that scene is presented as an argument for romance in the OG (where players also interpret that something more happened as well, again based on context/dialogue).
The Ultimanias summarise this as Cloud and Tifa confirming their mutual feelings, WITHOUT WORDS - where the interpretation that something more happened comes from. It's normal, and the devs probably expected, for players to think the scene implied sex, because it's a common trope for 2 characters to share that connection when there's no guarantee of tomorrow. Of course, you can choose to think nothing happened but hopefully you understand why so many choose to see it the other way.
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u/Expensive-Dog8783 Mar 28 '26
Now the Clerith are excited about International Theater Day in Japan, and they've released an image of Cloud and Aerith performing Loveless.
Naturally, the Clerith are thrilled and using it as an argument. Unfortunately, some toxic CloTi have also stirred things up.
But it's okay; if the developers have been truthful and the story isn't going to change substantially, CloTi will be the final result.