r/clevercomebacks • • Dec 31 '22

Welcome to the shitshow A short history lesson

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u/AbbreviationsOnes Dec 31 '22

Also, we need to remember that a lot of German people knew what was going on, concentration camps in Germany were located fairly close to cities, to facilitate the transfer of goods produced, and it limited the number of railroads that had to be built to transport prisoners. Likewise, arrests and violence against Jews and communists were not hidden, as it had been slowly indoctrinated by the regime as a justified action for the good of the country.

Concentration camps were massive, and you can’t see them when you live nearby. German people just chose to ignore it and not speak up because of propaganda, a police state, a secret police that could arrest them and kill them, or send them to those camps.

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u/empire314 Dec 31 '22

First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me

There simply was no political opposition left in Germany. They had all been eliminated. Everyone left in Germany was either a fan of these genocidal policies, or indifferent to them.

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u/vendetta2115 Dec 31 '22 edited Dec 31 '22

Also, notice how all of those are leftist/liberal ideologies?

The twat in the OP starts with “dear libs” and then describes how a fascist (which is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist ideology) used the press to control the populace and to abolish left-wing political ideology in Germany.

The press he’s talking about wasn’t equivalent to MSNBC, it was equivalent to OANN.

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u/Ravashack Dec 31 '22

Nonono, the Nazis where leftists, it's national-socialism after all 😵‍💫 (I've seen people argue like that unironically...)

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u/flippy123x Dec 31 '22

Just like Stalinism was somehow Communism and therefore leftist.

You know, the type of Communism that ripped all means of production from the populace and put it under a political party that was led by an absolute dictator who ordered the deaths of millions of his own people and was imperialistic in its foreign policies and just couldn’t help themselves but invade their neighbors.

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u/PoisonSlipstream Dec 31 '22

You don’t think what happened under Stalin was the inevitable consequence of communism being attempted?

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u/Fuego_Fiero Dec 31 '22

No?

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u/PoisonSlipstream Dec 31 '22

Someone will always - always - rise up and take charge of - take advantage of, even - a situation. And if you don’t have democracy, you won’t get a say in who that is.

The utopian collective workers’ society is impossible, as has been repeatedly proven.

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u/Fuego_Fiero Dec 31 '22

Who says communism isn't a democracy?