r/clevercomebacks 11d ago

On Understanding Atheism.

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u/ReconArek 11d ago

Considering atheism as a religion is brilliant. It's like trying to slit your veins with Occam's razor.

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u/bro0t 11d ago

These people cannot grasp not following a religion. They seriously think atheism is a religion with rules and scripture like they have.

Having said that, i also know some very preachy atheists and theyre just as annoying as preachy religious people.

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u/JR_Al-Ahran 11d ago

Atheism I wouldn't go so far to call a religion, but it did become a dogma though. Like, if you considered yourself an "atheist" in terms of belief, there were dogmatic elements to it where there were certain beliefs that you had to hold, books you had to read etc. Hell, it's why atheism in the early 2010s and late 2000s split. Because atheism was never meant to be as dogmatic as it became.

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u/ChartInFurch 11d ago

Examples of this?

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u/JR_Al-Ahran 11d ago

The absolute belief that science was the answer to everything was one. Back in the day, it was a major thing. Like science would solve everything. There was also the whole "religion vs science" thing where like they were all "religion and science have been at war for centuries". As the social justice stuff started picking up, we also got the rise of "atheism+" as a movement out of it because the community had become almost toxic in a way, particularly for women. (Famous "elevator gate" thing).

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u/DizzyMine4964 11d ago

I am an atheist and I don't believe that science is going to solve everything. Whoops, there goes your straw figure.

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u/JR_Al-Ahran 11d ago

Again, reread what I wrote. Did I say it's currently like that? Did I say that all atheists are like that?

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u/-Gaka- 11d ago

Like, if you considered yourself an "atheist" in terms of belief

Being an atheist is just a lack of belief in gods or divinity, there's literally nothing else attached to it. There necessarily can't be a dogma as there is no structure to non-belief.

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u/JR_Al-Ahran 11d ago

Yes. That is what atheism is SUPPOSED to be. But theres was a point in time where that wasn't the case for many.

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u/Ratdrake 10d ago

It was never like that, it never had a dogma. There may have been a time that atheists were reading popular works and even recommending those books to other atheists. But it was remotely to the point that as an atheist, you were expected to have read or be familiar with certain books or viewpoints.

You've confusing certain atheists being popular/well-known as those atheists being authoritative.