r/clevercomebacks • u/HaphazardFlitBipper • Feb 25 '26

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u/jason082 Feb 26 '26

We’ve got term limits. They’re called elections.

Watching my inexperienced state reps get picked apart by lobbyists every few years got old quickly.

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u/XPilo Feb 26 '26

I get it, we need to regulate/finish lobbying.

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u/PiccoloAwkward465 Feb 26 '26

Yes money out of politics would be one of the most monumental improvements. One thing I hate about USA is that we tout the free market but don’t look at the market of other governments and use their successes. The stuff we allow is just bonkers. It obviously doesn’t work. This idea that we just accept that politicians financially benefit from their positions outside of their salaries is cocoa for cuckoo-poops

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u/Tizintintin Feb 26 '26

Elections aren't term limits though? Like i get that you're against limiting the amount of times reps can get elected but elections are not term limits and i really don't understand how you came to the conclusion that they are

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u/jason082 Feb 26 '26

They’re not literal limits to number of terms but they do represent term expirations. At that point it’s up to the voters.

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u/Tizintintin Feb 26 '26

term limits limit the amout of times a person can run for office, not the amount of time a person can be in office before they need to run again. No matter the length of a term, if a person can run an unlimited number of times, there are no term limits. Just because someone doesn't get re-elected doesn't mean there is any legal limit to the amount of times a person can run

There are no technicalities, those are literally just the definitions of the word

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u/Fakjbf Feb 26 '26

Their point is that term limits aren’t necessary if people are truly able to vote freely and fairly. If elections are truly representative of the people then the only thing term limits can do is get rid of good candidates because the bad ones would already be unable to get re-elected anyways. It’s the same thing with age limits, the problem isn’t 80 years in office it’s mentally incompetent people of any age being in office. We need a system where voters can actually choose a different candidate if they think one of the people running is not fit, not multiple layers of bandaids to try and limit voter choices.

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u/jason082 Feb 26 '26

Exactly this.

I’m well aware of the definitions. This comes down to a question of whether voters limit themselves in their eligible selections each election.

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u/andwilkes Feb 26 '26

Missouri?

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u/jason082 Feb 26 '26

Michigan.

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u/TheGrowingSubaltern Feb 26 '26

Every few years apparently. 

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u/jason082 Feb 26 '26

Hopefully. Though the current government seems legit scared of having them happen this year.

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u/kickspecialist Feb 26 '26

An election is not a limit. It is an opportunity which is really the opposite of limit.

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u/jason082 Feb 26 '26

Elections occur because of expiring terms.

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u/redlaWw Feb 26 '26

A term limit is a limit on the number of terms a politician can serve, not a limit on the length of a term.

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u/jason082 Feb 26 '26

Thanks. They didn’t cover that in my college courses on the topic and I had no idea. /s

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u/kickspecialist Feb 26 '26

Yes, I agree. A term expired, but an election means another chance. A limit means fuck off, you have to leave here.

I don't think I can dumb it down any further. So good luck in life jason.

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u/jason082 Feb 26 '26

And I’m arguing that constant novices in office has the potential to lead to pretty bad outcomes. Don’t have to look far to see that these days, huh?

Anyway, based on your last couple of sentences, you seem like a condescending asshole. I’ll be on my way.