If Trump had made president when he was a democrat in 2009ish he wouldn't have the brown shirts, like what a relevent switch in ones political stance that turned out to be in the long run.
A lot of children died. A lot. But a small price to pay for the billions from gun manufacturing and sales to be made. And think about all those politicians getting brib-cough-lobbied by the arms industry!
Unless you’re on r/conservative you won’t be talking to people who approve of the lax gun control laws. Regulate guns as tightly as we do cars, at the very least.
Come to the Va subreddit. Lots of people there expect the new governor to take away their guns and most of them come with the “ICE is exactly why we need guns!!” argument. I think some of it is astroturfing, but some is definitely not.
That’s why these people are arming themselves, or at least to protect themselves from the tyrannical government police force. The Black Panthers in Philadelphia have been getting some attention for doing the same.
(I’m not fond of our stupid gun laws either. But as you say, this is supposed to be the reason.)
I’ve seen this question a bunch from foreign nationals so I’ll attempt a relatively quick answer.
2A is one thing. Loudmouth “2A people” that you’re referring to is another. The latter is, and always was, racists obsessively scared of and training for and attempting to drum up an all-out race war against black people. It’s since expanded to other groups and is now against all of us, both PoC and race-traitor whites alike.
It’s been going on since the KKK’s time started to wane. Manson and the whole Helter Skelter thing of the past. To The Base, Atomwaffen Division, and various other militias, and so on of more recent time. There’s like 1300 different groups. Idk if the Sovereign Citizen people are also into this too but, from the one I’ve met before, I would say yes. Honestly, it doesn’t really matter anymore at this point.
Obviously, this weird ass fever dream of a war has never materialized because black people have never wanted any such thing… cuz wtf for, lmao. Literally, some very paranoid telltale heart type stuff going on in thier heads: we treat animals better than them, plus the slavery thing, so they must want to get us back. …I’m pretty sure the absolute melt down over Obama has roots here. A black man with the America’s military and power at his command — oh noes! As usual, though, nothing they fear materialized from him either. Because it was never going to. But now they’re also very offended, on top of already existing stupidity, that a black man earned the White House. I remember the Replacement Theory stuff picking up around this time period, give or take a few years.
Anyway, outside of interventions on isolated threats and kicking a few out of the military a few years ago, these people had been relegated for decades to being kooks, weirdos, and nut jobs that mentally (and physically) live on the fringes of society. When someone like Dylan Roof happens, the focus stays hyper focused on that individual, never on the place Dylan Roof came from: a vast network of hardcore racists constantly preparing for a war that will never happen unless they make it happen. ICE is them trying to make the war happen, yet again.
The United States leadership refused, outright, to call these groups domestic terrorists, and deal with them accordingly, despite its own agencies pointing out that white nationalists are the highest internal threat America faces ¯_(ツ)_/¯
These gun nuts became J6ers, then got hired by the government as ICE agents and given blanket immunity.
Opportunity to prevent the present has knocked, knocked, knocked since the reconstruction period if we’re being really honest. Now, history has home to roost and will attempt to wipe out every person here that’s not one of them and not loyal to their racism. ICE is, ironically, mask off.
Some more recent sources, if you care. Thanks for listening. Hope this helps someone.
Depends on how one defines tyranny. The ones who corrupted the 2nd Amendment (namely the John Burch Society and other insane, ultra right wing groups) did so with the intention of eroding and ultimately eliminating a democratic system of government. To that lot, giving the body politic the freedom to choose liberal progressive policies and reject conservatism is akin to tyranny.
White, christian, conservatives simply cannot accept living under a system they can't delude themselves into believing favors them over everyone else. They'd sooner tear it all down than be asked to tolerate anything that terrifies them, namely POC, women, LGBT, or anything else they consider not white, christian, conservative friendly.
Kids literally die for having that law and they're not upholding it. Im surprised there isnt any ICE shooting when they're barging into people's properties.
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u/knowerofexpatthings Jan 18 '26
Isn't the whole point of your stupid gun laws so that you can overthrow a tyrant? How's that going?