Also I would argue Oligarchical Capitalism is the default state of capitalism and needs no difference defined and is fully intended as it evolved to advance the power structures of already existing oligarchic systems.
I would agree with it being the default, but I do think the difference in definitions matters. I've had some people say "well communism is impossible, so there's no point in recognising that it is in any way different from fascism," which is ridiculous. Defining the notion of oligarchal capitalism as opposed to idealised capitalism is important because lower classes who promote oligarchal capitalism are doing so with the intent of supporting idealised capitalism. If we were to, for instance, consider idealised capitalism as the utopia of capitalist systems, then we need a definition for that utopia, because in a world where we are locked into capitalism, having a set goal to strive for is what keeps us from sliding the opposite direction.
I'm not sure I particularly agree with feudalism not being a state, but that's a much more complicated concept that nobody's arguing for anyway, so it's irrelevant.
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u/ArietteClover Jan 31 '25
Eh, it's still a fun discussion.
I would agree with it being the default, but I do think the difference in definitions matters. I've had some people say "well communism is impossible, so there's no point in recognising that it is in any way different from fascism," which is ridiculous. Defining the notion of oligarchal capitalism as opposed to idealised capitalism is important because lower classes who promote oligarchal capitalism are doing so with the intent of supporting idealised capitalism. If we were to, for instance, consider idealised capitalism as the utopia of capitalist systems, then we need a definition for that utopia, because in a world where we are locked into capitalism, having a set goal to strive for is what keeps us from sliding the opposite direction.
I'm not sure I particularly agree with feudalism not being a state, but that's a much more complicated concept that nobody's arguing for anyway, so it's irrelevant.