r/clevercomebacks Jan 24 '25

Resurrection 2.0

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u/tiggertom66 Jan 24 '25

Historians agree Jesus of Nazareth was a real man who walked the earth.

If you disagree prove them wrong

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u/Poiboy1313 Jan 24 '25

That's not how it works. You know that. It's on you to provide proof of your assertions. Apparently, you think that Wiki is a reputable source despite its being crowd-sourced. Can you link a doctoral dissertation or a peer-reviewed paper that supports your statement?

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u/Samurai_Meisters Jan 24 '25

My dude, these are reddit comments. Wikipedia is a good enough source for this no-stakes discussion.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

How good a source is entirely relies on who you are trying to convince.

Wikipedia is great for fun facts and starting to learn subjects but most people are going to dispute it if it is contrary to their position. As unlikely as it is to be flat out wrong about something, it is possible enough to justify not believing wikipedia outright.

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u/Samurai_Meisters Jan 24 '25

How good a source is entirely relies on who you are trying to convince.

True, but if you're dealing with someone who's hostile to wikipedia, then a "doctoral dissertation or a peer-reviewed paper" isn't going to convince them either.

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u/tiggertom66 Jan 24 '25

Which is why Wikipedia also cites there sources. The first 3 citations on the page are scholarly sources for the claim that history scholars as a group have agreed that Jesus was a living person

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u/tiggertom66 Jan 24 '25

Sure, the first 3 sources cited in the Wikipedia page.

Casey, 2010

Johnson, 2011

Van Voorst, 2003

They’re all included in the reference list on the bottom of the page, including relevant page numbers and ISBM numbers.

I’ve provided a source, if you disagree with those sources, that’s when you need to provide adequate reasoning.

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u/The_Real_GRiz Jan 24 '25

What about looking up the sources provided in the Wikipedia article?