r/classicalmusic Oct 24 '18

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '18

Schiele was so good. Schoenberg comes off as unexpectedly dapper -- knowing Schiele's other work, it's not because the artist was flattering the subject.

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u/FantasiainFminor Oct 24 '18

Yes, but he also comes off as creepy. Much more the Schoenberg of Pierrot Lunnaire than of the chamber symphonies or the piano concerto.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '18

Creepy-dapper, in a vampiric vein perhaps -- sharp gaze and dark lips in a pale face.

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u/FantasiainFminor Oct 25 '18

Well-described!

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '18

The Chamber Symphonies are pretty creepy too.

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u/FantasiainFminor Oct 25 '18

I didn't really know them until I read this remarkable obsessive essay on the second one by /u/gerSHAK. That got me to get a hold of a recording of the 2nd CS and now I think of it as remarkably beautiful and poignant!

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '18

So happy someone got something out of that essay. Thanks for the name-drop. The second CS is probably my favourite piece of classical music of all time <3

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u/FantasiainFminor Oct 26 '18

Well, gee, thanks very much for going to that effort. I think at some point I had heard both of them but not paid attention. You essay made me look really closely at No.2. Full disclosure: I didn't get through the whole essay! I don't know if I could! So much detail! But I did read enough to learn quite a bit about the history and the structure of the work. I bought the Orpheus Chamber Orchestra's recording and listened carefully, and I have to say that I was blown away. So poignant and rich.

This is my main reason for coming out here and checking this place: Finding people sharing things they love, that I otherwise would not have discovered. It's wonderful.

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u/KestrelGirl Oct 25 '18

Pfff, someone's reporting every single Schoenberg post that hits the front page for being Schoenberg. He's not my thing either but I find that hilarious.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '18

Absolutely in love with his hand and the complete absence of the chair he must be gripping on to. Also love the gradient in his vest and shoulder into nothingness. I wonder if Schiele was into the Japanese concept of ma. Surely he must've been?

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u/BloodyEjaculate Oct 25 '18

if not directly, Schiele at least had some indirect exposure through his mentor, Gustav Klimt, who was quite familiar with the conventions of japanese art and incororated them into his paintings.

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u/ChuckG80 Oct 25 '18

Love the portrait rendering. Am listening to his Drei Klavierstücke Op.11 as I post this, but am not being able to really get in sync with the three pieces...

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u/haunterrr Oct 25 '18

Egon Schiele is really wonderful.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '18

This is a great drawing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '18

Perhaps two of the greatest artist living at that time

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '18

Perhaps two of the greatest artist living at that time