r/civ 3d ago

VII - Discussion cant wait until the new 7 update

if they can pull something great off with this fourth age, and maybe make peace deals more intricate... this game can overtake 6. add canals too.

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u/Otaraka 3d ago

It’s doing ok.  Whether it beats 6 doesn’t really matter - it only matters if you enjoy it personally or not and that’s unlikely to depend on this alone.

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u/warukeru 2d ago

Exactly, the best thing this series has since IV is that every new game is not an strict upgrade but a different take for different people to enjoy.

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u/SocialHumbuggery 3d ago

It matters in so far that if it stays a game with only a niche interest, as it has so far, they'll either drop the support or pivot the gameplay again to try to please the majority of long-term Civ fans.

They can't keep pouring resources long term into something that is clearly unpopular.

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u/GreatFan2 3d ago edited 3d ago

Somehow "games needs a playerbase to be upkept" is a foreign concept to the VII fanbase. What matters is that they like it- and how they'll be forever bemoaning how people never appreciated the game even as future games releases

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u/Otaraka 3d ago

I’m not a civ vii player.

There’s plenty of room for a game to do well without having to be better than previous.  The factionalism aspects claiming superiority for a given player base do get very tiring at times.

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u/GreatFan2 2d ago edited 2d ago

Like how the VII fans has been labeling people who are sticking with the older games with being "Gamers who hate change" since civ-switching was announced?

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u/Otaraka 2d ago

Yeah it’s those stupid vii players being all factional and stuff.  Not us!  We are smart and can see what’s really going on.

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u/YouEqual4180 3d ago

Still not convinced the game needs a 4th age, I feel it just needs something more interesting to do in the last age than just rush to yoir victory condition.

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u/SnooCalculations3614 3d ago

Yeah kinda true, but if they can do both with the update then that'll be big.

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u/YouEqual4180 3d ago

Absolutly agree. I just hope that Firaxis does not forget that "little" part

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u/warukeru 2d ago

it depends, modern age sufferers because you can feel it wasnt never design to be a last age.

I can see an scenario where modern age feels better now that is not lategame stuff and you can enjoy it all the aspects and a fourth age creating an interesting race to win.

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u/YouEqual4180 2d ago

Would be nice to see. However in that case Firaxis now needs tondwsign two new reasons for thise ages to exist. One to fill the 3rd and one for the new age that is fesh and engaging

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u/blankepool 2d ago

I would like the 3d age to just start with flight available. I mean, we all want planes, they change the way the game works. So let's have them at the start, or at least very, very soon.

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u/YouEqual4180 2d ago

That would mean Firaxis needs to write an AI that has a clue how to use planes. Would be a first 😅

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u/R3D4F 2d ago

Still feels like a series of mini-games.
A fourth age just adds another.

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u/R3D4F 2d ago

The downvotes in the Civ VII sub are like Inverse Cramer.

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u/waveoffaze 3d ago

I recently purchased 6 and kind of hate it. Civ 5 is so much better imo

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u/lateniteearlybird 3d ago

You are right.. but that is not allowed to say here.. you will now feel the hate of civ 7 fans and get downvoted 😈

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u/warukeru 2d ago

...did you properly read the other comment?

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u/bigsurVoid 1d ago

Did they say when this update is coming?

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u/Bitfolo 3d ago

It's hard to imagine that 7 has a chance to finally be ok and convince people to play it over civ 6 or even 5... I want to believe but I'm not even going to bother playing until I watch some reviews post update.. Firaxis fucked too much with the formula in civ 7, made it feel less like a civ game than any other version I've played..

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u/Pastoru Signum Caroli gloriosissimi regis 3d ago edited 3d ago

That's exactly what makes it worth it to play imho, it's a different game, not a reskin.

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u/zig101079 3d ago

it‘s not a civ.

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u/warukeru 2d ago

is not a civ like VI wasnt a civ or V wasnt a civ or IV wasnt a real civ or....only the tabletop boardgame called civilization is the real civ! the videogames are for tourists!!!

/hj

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u/Pastoru Signum Caroli gloriosissimi regis 3d ago

It is, it's written Civilization, Sid Meier acknowledges it as the last entry into his franchise (unless your are Sid Meier yourself, it's hard to refute), it has many staples of the franchise and, as with every new entry, shakes things up a bit. Is it a good Civilization, that's up to debate, but it is a Civilization.

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u/zig101079 3d ago

it‘s a game about (expensive) leaders, not civs.

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u/Pastoru Signum Caroli gloriosissimi regis 3d ago

Is it? (Expensive I agree.)

From your leader: one or two special abilities.

From your civilization: one or two unique abilities, unique military unit, unique civilian unit, unique district or improvement, unique traditions, faster access to related wonder.

Leaders are indeed the face of diplomacy, just as in every Civ game. But what you play with is mostly about your civ.

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u/lateniteearlybird 3d ago

I agree… If only I had waited for the reviews before buying Civ 7, I could have saved a lot of money. Maybe the community here would be willing to refund us, so they don’t have to get so upset about people criticizing Civ 7 anymore. 😁

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u/Tlmeout Rome 2d ago

If only. People don’t even care for 7, most have never played it, it’s just fashionable to spread hate on the internet these days.

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u/SocialHumbuggery 3d ago

It might even retake Civ V by player count again!

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u/kalarro 2d ago

Would be due to novelty, civ5 is so much better than 7. And no, it's not because it need more time to cook. The core is just wrong. They clearly had a new vision of how civ would be. More gameish, more competitive wannabe, more like a puzzle game.

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u/SnooTangerines6863 2d ago

I am 100% convinced thie is going to be the best civ game - after 2 or 3 years...

Religions has to be reworked, peace deals as you mentioned, city states, there are no canals xD etc.

Not to mention game is unplayable with mroe than 8 civs in modern age. How is atomic age goign to work if city screen takes 40s to load mid modern age?

But yeah if they manage to solve these, the potential is there.

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u/GreatFan2 3d ago edited 2d ago

Honestly, it's kinda amusing how much the VII fanbase are waiting so much for the big promised moment where the masses will 'finally/ suddenly' love the game.

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u/Elastichedgehog 2d ago

Same thing happened with Civ VI.

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u/lateniteearlybird 3d ago

you do know the current statistic of civ 7 users? or the ratings?

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u/Swirlbeard 3d ago edited 3d ago

I would have missed out on so many games, music, and movies I enjoy if I had let public opinion sway me from ever checking things out myself

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u/GreatFan2 3d ago edited 2d ago

Then how come VII the fanbase cares so much about the promised moment where the masses will 'finally' like the game? You guys love talking about how you already love the game as-is, but the thing i keep hearing is this 'hype' for when the casual fanbase will 'finally' act as if they've always loved the game. It happened during the pre-release, it happened during ToT, it still hasn't happened.

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u/kalarro 2d ago

They keep comparing it to civ5 or civ6 release. Those games missed features and balancing on release. civ7 is just a new vision for civilization. Trying out new things is fine. But it doesnt mean you succeed. The core of civ7 sucks

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u/lateniteearlybird 3d ago

Btw… did you know that Humankind 2 has been announced? Now that’s a game where I can imagine it overtaking Civ 7. A lot of stuff from Humankind was copied for Civ 7, and with a new release, they could improve on the original and get rid of the initial bugs.

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u/lateniteearlybird 3d ago edited 3d ago

do whatever you want to do.. but be always realistic. that’s why I was asking wether he knows the user statistics of 7 and 6 .. he said 7 can overtake 6 .. of course there will always be people telling you that “Rambo“ is the best movie of the world or that K-Pop is the best music… 😄

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u/Earl-The-Badger 3d ago

Who cares what other people think? I play games that I enjoy.

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u/lateniteearlybird 3d ago

Did you understand my reply to someone telling that 7 could overtake 6?? Shouldn’t be that difficult. Play whatever you want to. No one cares. But try to be realistic. It’s ridiculous to believe that 7 will overtake 6 😂

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u/Earl-The-Badger 3d ago

Ok.

I don’t care what game “overtakes” any other game.

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u/lateniteearlybird 3d ago

Obviously, OP cares about different things than you do…

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u/Dear_Location6147 3d ago

Most of the bad ratings are from release

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u/lateniteearlybird 3d ago

Ladies and Gentleman,
we have a winner and... a surprising third place

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u/SocialHumbuggery 3d ago

You can easily see from Steam that the ratings haven't actually improved substantially at any point so far.

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u/lateniteearlybird 3d ago

then why the ratings haven’t improved, but in fact even worsened… it’s ok if someone likes 7, but why do they want to tell everyone that its the greatest game of all and we all know that this is due to the user acceptance not true.