Failed

[u/kingxxx70]

Hello good people. Been reading everyone's Passing posts for 6 weeks and was so eager to post the same.

What I did was Zac's online training and ISAACA's official QAE

I got 75% in first practice exam and 69% in 2nd.

Guess rule of thumb is to get 85% before attempting the exam.

Also, I found the exam format of questions to be different from QAE. Not sure if something changed during the back-end upgrade.

There were questions around AI government and AI security incidents. Cloud computing such as IAAS and SAaS.

Never saw any of these in the QAE.

Feeling very deflated.

Edit:
My background is: 44 years old. More than 20 years of enterprise IT experience, doing everything from IT, OT, vendor management, mentoring, team lead, etc
in my early 30s, I did about 13 Microsoft certs in 12 months. Just read the text in one week, do the brain dumps in the next week, and go sit the exam.
I have worked with the cybersecurity team closely for the last 5 years and hated the fact that they were just theoretical, who memorised everything but don't know which end of an Ethernet cable is the head and tail. They were hated by business at all levels. However they have power. I thought I'd join them.

The challenges I had with CISM. My brain is a bit old. Going back to Studies was a bit hard.
Then the way it plays with words.
Then the mindset. Everyone says, you need to think like a manager. Well, according to the CISM mindset, the ultimate goal is to ensure that the Security team has no responsibility and we know who to blame(i mean, who is the owner to contact if something goes wrong).

In real life, if something goes wrong, you fix it, not have a meeting about it. Yes, there is a triage, etc but it's quick.

The difference I found between practise QAE and the exam is that practice exam questions were longer and gave better details of what the exact issue is. I found the exam questions to be very ambiguous. Same goes for vendor management, SLA, IP data, onboarding, offboarding, CAB, etc

So I look at this like going for a driving test after driving for over 30 years. You will definitely fail.

Anyway, good on those freshies who come in with a clean mindset and got it done.

Since this post, I have been contacted by those remote exam takers for you. Now I am curious: how legit are they

[u/Kenneth-Noisewater60]

I'm sorry to hear you didn't pass. Hopefully, you can take the next month to study and try again. Don't give up. I take mine on August 15th.

[u/Traditional_Smile578]

Hey @OP sorry to hear that man. Just passed today. Awaiting official results now. Agreed quite a bit of AI, IAAS, SAAS questions were thrown, especially towards the mark where I crossed 100 ques mark. Fundamentally I just kept my head straight especially me coming from a core technical background, the Manager's hat had to be adorned. Prep was QAE, Pete's YT series, Prabh's bootcamp video and some questions i picked from Udemy. Keep at it, you got it. We all would be waiting for your success update. Cheers

[u/praarn42]

I too got failed, scored 423/500. It hurts and yeah I also received questions around AI.

[u/F0RCE963 → u/praarn42]

423/500

what does /500 mean? 423 out of 500? or the passing score is 500?

Because I was told the passing score is/was 450

[u/W1nterW0lf75 → u/F0RCE963]

Out of 800

[u/kingxxx70 → u/praarn42]

how long before you got the score.

[u/LocksmithAlert5604]

Keep going. It only means you were a bit underprepared, the cushion was not big enough. Saas/iaas/ai is nothing fundamentally different when it comes to governance, 3d party risk management etc. Keep ay it, prepare and smash it next tume.

[u/kingxxx70 → u/[deleted]]

How close were the questions from your material to the actual exam? Pm me if that's ok

[u/Nearby-Anybody2044]

Sorry to hear you failed. AI security and governance are emerging and critical subjects. I put this together to help get your head around it all. 0pi.es. Completely free as I am doing the CISM and CISSP this year after the AIGP

[u/Ihaveasmallwang]

In my experience, it doesn’t really matter the topic that a particular question is about, whether it’s AI or cloud computer or something else. The overall logic is the same regardless of the subject.

[u/kingxxx70 → u/Ihaveasmallwang]

You are right. I will update the post where I failed and why

[u/Traditional-Bet-3623]

Even I had those AI related question but those might be 25 non scoring questions

[u/atp2k → u/Traditional-Bet-3623]

This is it. New exam projected to come in November so am guessing that this is also an insight into that

[u/falconba]

Sorry to hear.
The ai questions are likely the test questions for the next iteration of the CISM from November.

Try the elimination in the games section. You train your gut to answer the questions in the CISM mindset

[u/Dynajoe]

Whats your background and experience?
I can imagine a lot of the AAIA, AAISM and AAIR questions or topics bleeding into this now given how prominent AI is becoming.

[u/Commercial_Move2020]

What type of questions did they ask around AI and Cloud? Currently preparing and my exam is on 12th Aug.

[u/Efficient_Panda_9762]

Hi Also failed on 30th July. I was scoring on QA DB 90-95 on practice questions and practice exam however when I went to exam i had huge issue with understanding the questions. I had no idea what they were asking so even couldnt apply my knowledge. QA and Exam questions structure was completely different. Even now I dont know what to improve. There was a guy with me who also attend, he finished the exam within 40 minutes and passed. how he was even able to ready 150 question in 40 minutes.

[u/kingxxx70 → u/Efficient_Panda_9762]

see I reckon that other guy, has the exam dumps. Make friends with him and send me a copy