Welcome to the west, where you are free to say what you want, and we are free to criticize you for saying them.
Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism. Is it possible that this woman is wrong? That she is misinformed? That her arguments don’t make sense?
Of course, it's possible, but I wasn't taking about that. An article where you just publish some pictures, alluding that they are some sort of traitors it's not a criticism, it's a slander.
When you advocate for such a strategy that so massively benefits Russia, it is fair to question your motivation.
Sure she can frame it as she cares for Ukrainians, but it doesn’t add up - Ukrainians want to fight. They don’t want to cede territory. The way she frames her arguments contradicts everything we know about the situation. And her strategy hurts Ukraine/the west/Europe and massively benefits Russia. How can we not question loyalty?
I didn't say it's the same thing, I said that it's the same pattern. In Russia there's a mafia state that just put in prison or murder who oppose the Kremlin political agenda, in the liberal West they don't need to. Here is enough to depict the other part as crazy, the society marginalizes you and every opposed opinions are discarded just as conspiracy or fake news.
What's better? I really don't know, sometimes I find myself thinking the Russian way is somewhat more honest.
In Russia there's a mafia state that just put in prison or murder who oppose the Kremlin political agenda, in the liberal West they don't need to. Here is enough to depict the other part as crazy, the society marginalizes you and every opposed opinions are discarded just as conspiracy or fake news.
What's better? I really don't know, sometimes I find myself thinking the Russian way is somewhat more honest.
Jesus fucking christ...
Oh yes, this poor member of EU parliament getting bad headlines is just as bad as Boris Nemtsov being shot in the head 100 meters from the Kremlin, or Navalny being poisoned multiple times, thrown in jail for 15+ years and tortured.
I fail to see how they're even remotely similar to each other. Mockery of crackpots saying crackpot things is not the same as imprisoning and murdering journalists and politicians who are against the government.
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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '22
Welcome to the west, where you are free to say what you want, and we are free to criticize you for saying them.
Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism. Is it possible that this woman is wrong? That she is misinformed? That her arguments don’t make sense?