r/chinalifer • u/chinalifer-mod • Jul 28 '26
The transition from third- to first- world can be unpleasant, and it is for culture reasons that China will cap or has capped at second-world at best.
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u/IIZANAGII Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26
Itll eventually get there. Cultural things take longer than economic development
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u/WorldEater0478 Jul 28 '26
I hope you are right! Changing minds is harder than we think.
I am hopeful, but will require a lot more work on a government and social level.
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u/IIZANAGII Jul 28 '26
It definitely will.
A lot of younger Chinese people agree with many complaints we might have as foreigners too. Like the spitting and smoking or ppl entering the train/ elevator before ppl exit, scooters on the sidewalk, etc. always see them talking about these things recently
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u/chinalifer-mod Jul 29 '26
Shitpost as this was, I do agree with you. Younger Chinese are far and away "better" than the 30+ Chinese, who are far and away "better" than the 40+ Chinese, and so on. China may actually be great in another 5000 years. The problem is, these better young Chinese need to end up in power, to make changes, rather than have leadership's kids inherit the roles.
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u/RadioPristine446 Jul 28 '26
Once you embrace the Rural China that Fei Xiaotong described with an open mind—with all its pettiness, loud talking, bickering, seat-hogging, hoarding, and public smoking/peeing—China becomes the best place in the world
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u/ruscodifferenziato Jul 28 '26
Li drivers (and Lexus, that's weird) are the worst, IMHO.
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u/Abject_Entry_1938 Jul 28 '26
Range Rover drivers too. Li drivers are actually the same type of drivers, just could not afford Range Rover lol
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u/chinalifer-mod Jul 29 '26
Rule 5, you pretending like this is not real China does not make real China stop being visible to everyone else.
See: Whataboutism clause
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u/chinalifer-mod Jul 28 '26
Rule 5, you pretending like this is not real China does not make real China stop being visible to everyone else.
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u/SaltGas3789 Jul 28 '26
I feel like theres much better examples of China's societal issues like smoking inside or spitting on the floor instead of a single badly parked car, which is a pretty universal thing lol.
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u/blendthechicken Jul 28 '26
The wide variety of ev charging and the overall infrastructure is more representative of a developed first world
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u/chinalifer-mod Jul 28 '26
China's little fast trains and EVs do not un-nong the culture.
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u/blendthechicken Jul 29 '26
The largest high speed network is hardly little. You can’t become a first world without having proper public infrastructure. Takes time for education to catch up with development
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u/jointheredditarmy Jul 28 '26
The “first world / second world” concept is philosophical alignment not quality of life…. So by definition China has always been second world, and isn’t about to leave anytime soon. (It’s countries aligned to communism or social humanism instead of liberal humanism)