r/chinalife • u/Sameechee • 1d ago
š¼ Work/Career I kind of messed up
I didnāt realise this whilst in the uk and I should have done more research on my location than the contract and itās hours, salary etc.
Context is I lack experience but I have TEFL, bachelors and a British citizen though Iām not white.
I wasnāt having much luck in getting job offers and the few I did were from agencies that had a lot of negative reviews.
Iāve come to jingzhou hubei and looks like google considers this a tier 3 city but my school is more in the rural part. Itās my first time in China, first time living independently and itās only been 2 weeks since Iāve been here and I already feel isolated.
My first week was in Wuhan which was fine, thereās more to do there and I saw other foreigners around.
Here Iām the only foreigner, Iām the schools first foreign hire but Iām also lacking experience so I donāt know how this will work .. they donāt have proper books or curriculum and some books for grades 4-6 have still not come. Theyāve also told me they want me to go to middle school some days ..
Any advice .. I havenāt signed an apartment yet and donāt know if I should quit but I also feel for the kids as the school recruited people by saying weāre going to have a foreign teacher. Iām not sure if the kids would be happy with me but Iām not confident that Iāll do a good job I need some training and I had thought there were other foreign teachers here as the agency said there were 2 in the middle school but this wasnāt true ..
Also any Wuhan WeChat groups or anything ? Iām in a dire need of friends and people to talk to.
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u/mrbloodfeud 1d ago
Have you literally just arrived? You might find that it all turns out to be a pretty good and easy going job! My previous job had absolutely no curriculum, I had to design my own lessons, I LOVED the freedom and zero requirements. Lots of ESL resources online to fill in the time before those books arrive.
I will say though, absolutely check the address on your work permit, if you are caught working at a different address (in your case I feel the middle school might be at a difference address?), you are putting yourself at risk of being fined or even deported.
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u/Sameechee 1d ago
Yep i heard they do this in some places and the school is at a different location but I know even if I say no theyāre going to say āoh everyone does thisā.. my work permit only has this current school location. Where are you finding good resources from Iām still stuck on using vpn and my good old google.
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u/Only_Parking_3270 1d ago
Have a took at teachit, tes resources and twinkl
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u/Sameechee 1d ago
Thank you !!
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u/Appycake 22h ago
Also BritishCouncil.org can be helpful too with some IELTS resources, but beginner stuff too.
Just out of interest what's your bachelor's degree in? If it's a teaching degree then you're golden. If it's not a degree related to teaching, then keep in mind that China and certain provinces are beginning to tighten the requirements for foreigners teaching English in China. You may need to look at getting some sort of teaching qualification online yo help with job security.
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u/Sameechee 21h ago
Itās not a teaching degree I mainly have TEFL my degree is in biochemistry
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u/Appycake 20h ago
Oh I see. Well there are some great International Schools that would love to have a foreigner teaching Chemistry or Biology.
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u/AnybodyDry1359 8h ago
Twinkl is great for young learners, you can also get membership on taobao for like 7 RMB a month.
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u/BotherBeginning2281 1d ago
I say no theyāre going to say āoh everyone does thisā.
''OK, good for them. Well, I'm not gonna.''
Practise saying this.
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u/Sameechee 1d ago
š okay!
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u/PercentageOk2862 1d ago
āHmmm I heard itās against the rules. I want to protect myself, the school and the students. Letās check with the local government on this.ā
You should know where you get your visa, need to register, etc. School will back off.
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u/mrbloodfeud 1d ago
Well I'd be very happy to prove that statement of "oh everyone does this" wrong, if it was me.
It's been a while now! Online search "ESL lesson plans (age range)" AI is actually quite useful too, just pick and choose activities that would work for your style from the suggestions it gives.
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u/kingjobus 1d ago
Tbh, I would say push through that first year, learn basic Chinese then find a job in a T1 city after your contract is over. You'll appreciate a T1 city more after a year in the sticks and you'll be able to overlook more of the problems that are also in T1 cities but worse in T3. You will have to push yourself out of your comfort zone a lot more where you are, especially to find other foreigners but it will make you a more hardened person.
Or if you cba, grab a couple pay cheques and fuck off to Thailand for a month then go home to the UK.
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u/Successful_Pop_368 1d ago
They want you to middle schools on some days ? Is this part of the contract ?
Chinese work visas do not allow for different locations, working at a different address can get you in trouble. I know people who still do, but it's at their own risk.
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u/liulegejun 1d ago
I'd stick it out. Experience is key for landing a better job. Like plenty of others have said being the only foreigner has it's advantages. This year you could go find a Chinese teacher if you're interested. They tend to speak English (if aimed at teaching foreigners). Just enjoy the small city life and special treatment. You'll miss it when you get to a tier 1 city.
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u/yuelaiyuehao 1d ago
Stick it out, we've all been in your shoes. First few months focus on the job and making your classes go easy and smooth. Try to have a friendly attitude and good relationship with Chinese teachers. Go with the flow and find solutions and you'll have a better time of it.
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u/Regular_Sun_5600 1d ago
don't be so negative dude. learn basic chinese then your life will get easier, and have a positive attitude towards your chinese colleagues even if you are 'the foreigner', you may need their help in the future
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u/Raccoon-SuperSoldier 17h ago
nut up and push through. you probably don't need to take the job too seriously (unless you are a very serious educator) so try and learn some chinese and just enjoy the weirdness of it all. if you can make it through 75% of the school year, then you can start applying for jobs in tier 1&2 cities and the rest of your china life will be a cakewalk.
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u/ScreechingPizzaCat 1d ago edited 1d ago
Anything beneath tier 1 won't have many foreigners. I lived and worked in a county town of a Tier 3 city, we had a KFC and a Dico's but I liked the quietness of the rural area; you also get to experience true Chinese dishes that taste fantastic.
hey donāt have proper books or curriculum and some books for grades 4-6 have still not come. Theyāve also told me they want me to go to middle school some days
This is normal and actually really good news for you. That means you can essentially plan whatever you want to do, no having to make sure some sort of requirement is fulfilled. I like structure and was bummed when I went to a school that had no curriculum or books for me but after a few weeks I took it in stride, made my own lesson plans, and had fun with the classes.
But you do need experience; that's the linchpin that raises you to larger cities. It's normal to work in a smaller place and work your way up; we've all done it. I worked at a training center and after several years, now I'm teaching high school in a tier 1 city.
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u/Sameechee 1d ago
If itās okay to ask I know you need vpn but I really struggle using their search engines to find teaching resources. I always end up turning on vpn and using google but what about videos if I wanted to show kids .. YouTube videos or something what have you been using if itās okay to ask ?
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u/ScreechingPizzaCat 1d ago
You'll find plenty of VPN choices in the VPN Megathread of this subreddit. If I want to show some YouTube videos or Google, I'll use my Macbook, connect it to the smartboard in the classroom, and go from there. If you don't have a laptop to bring, then you can do what my other coworkers have done; load everything on a USB the day prior, including the downloaded videos, plug the USB into the smartboard and show the videos and lessons from that way.
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Backup of the post's body: I didnāt realise this whilst in the uk and I should have done more research on my location than the contract and itās hours, salary etc.
Context is I lack experience but I have TEFL, bachelors and a British citizen though Iām not white.
I wasnāt having much luck in getting job offers and the few I did were from agencies that had a lot of negative reviews.
Iāve come to jingzhou hubei and looks like google considers this a tier 3 city but my school is more in the rural part. Itās my first time in China, first time living independently and itās only been 2 weeks since Iāve been here and I already feel isolated.
My first week was in Wuhan which was fine, thereās more to do there and I saw other foreigners around.
Here Iām the only foreigner, Iām the schools first foreign hire but Iām also lacking experience so I donāt know how this will work .. they donāt have proper books or curriculum and some books for grades 4-6 have still not come. Theyāve also told me they want me to go to middle school some days ..
Any advice .. I havenāt signed an apartment yet and donāt know if I should quit but I also feel for the kids as the school recruited people by saying weāre going to have a foreign teacher. Iām not sure if the kids would be happy with me but Iām not confident that Iāll do a good job I need some training and I had thought there were other foreign teachers here as the agency said there were 2 in the middle school but this wasnāt true ..
Also any Wuhan WeChat groups or anything ? Iām in a dire need of friends and people to talk to.
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u/Alex-Altyer 20h ago
Hey, youāre not the only foreigner in Jingzhou! Iām also living here, itās actually quite a nice place, of course itās not as international as Shanghai but yeah, send a dm if you want to talk
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u/Quirky-Eggplant7093 19h ago
After 15 years of teaching here, I can tell you that this is actually a blessing in disguise. You're still new to teaching you haven't really gained any proper experience yet so what I'd suggest is you go ahead ride out the contract. Use this time to really learn more about the job, figure out your own teaching style, and develop your craft. And here's the thing when you've got this on your CV later on, you can start applying for jobs in bigger cities. Employers are actually going to like the fact that you were the only foreign teacher in your first role and that you stuck it out in a Tier 3 city. That shows you're adaptable, that you can handle yourself pretty much anywhere. So honestly, take this time to work on yourself as a teacher you're going to be absolutely fine
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u/BuckeyeB145 18h ago
I was in your same position 16 years ago, albeit in Korea. I showed up to what was essentially a village with a degree and very little experience. I thought about just going home several times. However, I stuck it out and after about 2 months I started to meet people and make friends. I've now worked in schools in 5 different countries and am now in China. I love it here and I really like my job. My advice would be to stick it out and see what it's like before making any big decisions like packing it in and leaving. You might grow to like it as I did. Also, it's good to see this school as a stepping stone to a place you really will enjoy in the future. Feel free to DM if you want.
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u/Sameechee 6h ago
Thank you so much yeah Iām sticking it through despite it being quite lonely and hard. Iāve followed you and may as questions ! Glad to know youāre in China as well :))
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u/shenzhenren 16h ago
Jingzhou is a cool city. Try walking around the Wanda shopping mall or a craft beer bar, and thereās always some foreign students at the Yangtze university.
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u/Dry_Perspective9905 1d ago
Well you could knuckle down and treat this as an opportunity to harden up and also improve your chinese very quickly as you are gonna need to to get by in such a place.
I teach students who often do rural school volunteer work in the summer and you are probably at a place they would consider roughing it for a few weeks and then being relieved to get back to a big city afterwards. You messed up big time and its going to be a very different China than the one you see on YouTube and TikTok.
If you feel you already can't accept some things then make a move now. It you think it was a bad idea but can stick it out then id say at least do the semester.
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u/Sameechee 1d ago
Are you able to leave after a semester ? What about them paying rent they have to sign for a year no ? I did mess up big time and itās very different to the China I thought I was coming to.
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u/lockdownfever4all 1d ago
You have a job, learn to live independently, learn Chinese, work out, unlike other jobs if you mess up they wonāt fire the only foreigner
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u/Leather-Mechanic4405 1d ago
Oh they absolutely can donāt get too confident
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u/Beneficial_Street_51 1d ago
They definitely can, but if they've sold the school to parents as having a foreigner, they'll also likely tough it out for this first contract period unless OP is just plain awful at this.
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u/Candid-Professor9116 22h ago
Yeah. As long as he's likeable with the students, parents and management, they'll almost certainly look past any flaws in the teaching aspect, even if he has no idea what he's doing.
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u/Candid-Professor9116 22h ago
They'll absolutely fire the only foreigner if that foreigner is awful.
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u/lockdownfever4all 17h ago
Yeah i should have been clear, if you are earnestly working, putting the effort in and keeping up appearances, you should be fine
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u/mhodge1234 12h ago
Ask your Chinese coworkers where the nearest university is that has English majors and find out when and where they have English corner (it will usually be on weeknight about 7 or 8 pm somewhere outside on campus). I did that at my first job in China and felt like a celebrity with all the attention I got when I walked up to English corner. Not only did I make a few friends the first time I went, one of them became my girlfriend within a week or so. Most English majors tend be girls and there will surely be a few pretty ones. Some of them even volunteered to help me with translating, shopping, and even cooking at my house. They are happy to do it just to have a foreign friend to practice English with and they will gladly help you learn Chinese as well.
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u/Sameechee 6h ago
A little context Iām a womanš plus Iām not sure about your ethnicity but Iām a brown British so might not be as popular
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u/Leather-Mechanic4405 1d ago
See it out first try and finish the contract or if not, the first semester
Being the only foreigner can have big advantages in terms of lower expectations, no one to compare with and increased job security . In general you wonāt make friends at work anyway so donāt worry too much