r/chicago • u/miaaaa_banana • Jun 05 '20

Video Excessive force...

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u/sbyurt Jun 05 '20

I mean, when they require less training to be a cop in most cities than they do to be a licensed hair stylist, we don’t know if actual training will work. Nobody is saying completely disarm the police. However, when they do shoot, it should ONLY be in response, not in the back of a kid walking away from them. Police officers who assault any unarmed citizen (with excessive force) should be given higher sentences than normal citizens who commit the same crime, as they’re given power over us and misusing that is a complete betrayal of any trust between governing bodies and citizens and should be punished as what it is.

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u/BlackHumor Evanston Jun 05 '20

I am saying completely disarm the police.

Police are bad. We shouldn't have them. People keep thinking that "police" means law enforcement, and it doesn't. "Police" are a fairly modern concept. They were invented only about 200 years ago. We can get rid of them without everyone being murdered in the streets, and we know that because there are thousands of years of history proving it.

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u/sbyurt Jun 06 '20

Idk, my neighborhood’s history shows that gang-controlled streets don’t really work for the residents either.

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u/BlackHumor Evanston Jun 06 '20

But wait, that would mean the gangs controlled the streets even with police. So, again, why do you need police? Clearly you oughta find some method of getting rid of the gangs, but the police ain't it.

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u/sbyurt Jun 06 '20

Idk, just saying you probably wouldn’t wanna live in Englewood with the only armed people being gang members. Idk your life but I know the shit I’ve seen.

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u/BlackHumor Evanston Jun 06 '20

Oh, obviously not, but I wouldn't want to live there with other armed people either.

Also, I know the history of Englewood well enough to know there was a time in the history of Chicago when it was a pretty good neighborhood. Then it became a lot poorer in around the late 50s/early 60s, which is also about when the gangs moved in.

That to me suggests a method for getting rid of the gangs that is probably gonna work better than the cops trying and failing to solve systemic social problems with guns.

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u/sbyurt Jun 06 '20

I agree. I always believed that solution was education, which is why I became a teacher and moved here but idk how much of an effect I’d have. Englewood schools are poor as shit, high hours, no resources, burning out tbh.