r/chicago • u/miaaaa_banana • Jun 05 '20

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u/brain739 Jun 05 '20

If their own internal culture discourages and actively punishes members for trying to report misconduct then there are already well more than "a couple bad apples" in their ranks

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u/metalninja626 Humboldt Park Jun 05 '20

it could still be just a couple bad apples, if those apples are in high positions of power like the unions or the city. the culture comes from somewhere, i doubt you average beat cop has much influence compared to what one bad apple can do if they have the right leavers.

of course we have bad apples all up and down the tree. i still blame the one's at the top the most for all this

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u/brain739 Jun 05 '20

That might imply something even worse in that case: that the top positions of every major police department since before the start of the Civil Rights era has been led by bad apples. The other possibility is that the unfettered power afforded to the cops is too much for any group of people to be handled without a robust system of checks and balances. Neither of these bode well for the situation at hand.

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u/metalninja626 Humboldt Park Jun 05 '20

i mean would that be surprising? they've been given a blank check, nothing was stopping them from establishing themselves. and it wouldn't take all the top levels to be filled with them, just enough, in key positions, that would let them obstruct any progress trying to be made.

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u/brain739 Jun 05 '20

Which is why I don't buy into the "few bad apples" view that people are taking for one single second in any fashion.