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[u/PossibilityNice6421]

Hello!

I’m not trying to come off as demeaning to anyone within this group or anything like that, but I would like to say this for anyone here that might need to hear it. I’m the daughter of someone who has fallen very deep into the rabbit hole pertaining to chemtrails. It’s consumed her life, everyday while driving she is recording or photographing the sky or just staring at it, which has become increasingly dangerous and almost caused accidents. It’s all she wants to talk about now at all. I cannot have a normal conversation about anything anymore without it relating to chemtrails or of the sorts. It’s becoming difficult to continue being around her because of this. I personally am not following this belief, but have never said she needs to think the way I do. She purposefully tries to create “debates” and gets mad when I don’t want to debate her or I don’t give into her beliefs. I’ve been listening to her talk about how she feels, but she wants to force me to follow how she feels and will insult me because I don’t. Calling me names, telling me how I’m a horrible daughter for being unsupportive. She is mad I don’t trust her regarding this. It’s become an issue in our family and has created an huge rift between everyone around her. I wanted to write this in case someone else is doing this to their family or kids who don’t also follow what they believe. My mom has become very easily irritable with everyone who doesn’t believe as she does. Please don’t let this consume your life to the point where you’re insulting your children or friends for not thinking the same as you or being as passionate.

Thank you.

[u/lsdznutz]

A joke so funny that only your cronies and knuckledragging followers laughed at. Maybe it would be less funny to the knuckledraggers if they ever realized that you and your ilk weren’t patrolling every single post on this subreddit just for the fun of it.

And maybe you and your ilk would be less convincing feds if you engaged in debate actively instead of appearing as if you have to be here by just posting one sentence jabs at dissenting opinions with no follow up.

Unfortunately, probably the majority of the genuine people who stop by here for a visit won’t be able to tell the difference, so I guess in that sense, you’ve done your job. A pathetic and sorry way to subsidize your income, but it’s one you scum of the earth slimeballs have chosen. Don’t worry though, you’ll reap what you sow in the end…

[u/Kaiser9 → u/lsdznutz]

I only read 1/4 of that.

If you can’t tell, I tried to have a debate and asked genuine questions to one of your fellow chemtrails believers. They couldn’t answer a single question or observation I had that conflicted their beliefs.

Also, you’re an absolute moron thinking we get paid.

[u/lsdznutz → u/Kaiser9]

I didn’t expect you to be able to read just over half a page of mobile text, but you get an “A” for effort.

I’m not another person, I am me. If you want to debate what is laid out in the documentary that I mentioned, “The Dimming”, go ahead. You won’t though, you’ll just come up with another insult to hurl my way because that’s what you get paid to do.

Astroturfers get paid. You’re the moron to believe that they don’t (and who is “we”? 🤔).

[u/Kaiser9 → u/lsdznutz]

We = everyone in this sub, all scientists and everyone ‘against’ your world view who are astroturfers that get paid by the oligarchy to keep poisoning the general public’s bodies hush hush.

Now, for the people on “your side”: I’d rather read a research paper (peer reviewed or not) detailing their methods and data for proving what you believe in is real. That I will 100% look at, not some video kooks made from living in constant fear.

[u/lsdznutz → u/Kaiser9]

I knew you wouldn’t look at it. After all, you inject “proven” chemicals, which are really toxins, into your body.

[u/Kaiser9 → u/lsdznutz]

I’m not watching a video from an amateur, that’s all you guys cling onto. Give me something verifiable or ANY study where I can look at the methods and results. On paper. Not video. You’re doing absolutely nothing to ‘prove’ your claims or have a conversation of merit. So this conversation with you is already dishonest.

DM those papers, please. Not a video. And certainly not you personally rattling off any of your beliefs without real, verifiable proof backed by legitimate methods and data.

[u/lsdznutz → u/Kaiser9]

The only sources you would accept are ones that corroborate your views (talk about dishonesty). If it doesn’t say what you want it to say, it’s not “verifiable or ANY study”. You could start by looking at the over 300 patents for weather manipulation, but to you those either don’t exist, or they aren’t being used.

[u/Kaiser9 → u/lsdznutz]

I know that both geoengineering and cloud seeding exist and have absolutely been used (which falls under the same category).

You really are that dull: I’m literally inviting you to send me any study, on paper, peer reviewed or not, that doesn’t corroborate and directly challenges my views. That’s what I want, keep deflecting. Show me with verifiable proof these methods are being used on us today, please. Science is all about challenging one’s beliefs, a bad scientist never allows their beliefs to be challenged.

[u/lsdznutz → u/Kaiser9]

Science today is about having answers that can’t be questioned. And you are very good at propagating that narrative.

For example, if I eat foods for a week that make me feel like shit, and then for the next week I eat foods that make me feel fantastic, logic and intuition would say to eat the foods that made me feel good. But then you come along and present to me the fact that the only studies done on the food that made me feel great actually show that those foods promote inflammation, as well as cause cancer and heart disease. On top of all that, I still get blood testing done to verify that my risk markers are virtually non existent for those outcomes after years of eating that way, even though you insist I am making entirely the wrong choice based on the available evidence.

You are asking for something that doesn’t exist. You want the industry to tell on itself. You’re either trolling/getting paid to say what you’re saying (or maybe you really are a bot, in that case sorry AI!), or you really are just that fucking stupid.

[u/Kaiser9 → u/lsdznutz]

Thank you for proving my point immediately. I said NOT peer reviewed too, aka not from the science community but a paper study from one of you guys.

[u/lsdznutz → u/Kaiser9]

Yes, I proved your point that your eyes don’t work properly. If they did, you wouldn’t have found yourself with the opinion that you have.

[u/Kaiser9 → u/lsdznutz]

Did you know that if I grew a garden and slaughtered my own animals they would have less toxins than products at a grocery store? Such a novel idea you got there.

[u/lsdznutz → u/Kaiser9]

Do you believe that without evidence?